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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (anders williamson)

Thu, 2014-09-18 21:45
superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: This brings back BeOS memories. At one time I read that most Be engineers used to be on the Be developer list (the one for third party BeOS developers), but most of them left after a while since there was too much unconstructive whining. Seems to me there's a lot of whining about whining from developers. Make it closed if you don't want input. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Stephan Aßmus)

Thu, 2014-09-18 21:45
Hi Eftimios, Am 13.09.2014 um 21:56 schrieb Eftimios Georgiadis georgiadis.e@xxxxxxxxx: Ingo, I am on this mail list from day 1, and I follow every discussion seens then. I talk only when I have something to say so don't point the gun on me... As you can see I replied to someone else thoughts about leaving the mail list. If you are here for so long and read every post, surely you’ve heard about not top-posting here? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Urias McCullough)

Thu, 2014-09-18 21:45
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Eftimios Georgiadis georgiadis.e@xxxxxxxxx wrote: As you can see I replied to someone else thoughts about leaving the mail list. No, you replied to someone that was warning that if the ridiculous, abusive use of this list continues, there will be fewer valuable people subscribed to it. I was not threatening to leave this list, I was expressing my concerns that if conditions don't improve, many Haiku devs may leave. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Eftimios Georgiadis)

Thu, 2014-09-18 21:45
Ingo, I am on this mail list from day 1, and I follow every discussion seens then. I talk only when I have something to say so don't point the gun on me... As you can see I replied to someone else thoughts about leaving the mail list. On Saturday, September 13, 2014, Ingo Weinhold ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx wrote: On 12.09.2014 22:58, Eftimios Georgiadis wrote: But sometimes having to argue ones position tends to renew ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [RFC] Automated package builds: Proposed Architecture (Oliver Tappe)

Thu, 2014-09-18 15:45
On 2014-09-12 at 20:10:14 [+0200], pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: [ ... ] Moreover, we can still use buildbot to get the git repository watching, web interface, IRC bots, and buildslave distribution. Redoing all of this sounds like a major paste of time. Buildbot can then run any command on the slaves once it notices something changed, and this is where I think we should plug our build infrastructure, either a simple ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Ingo Weinhold)

Thu, 2014-09-18 13:45
On 12.09.2014 22:58, Eftimios Georgiadis wrote: But sometimes having to argue ones position tends to renew passions. And sometimes, it causes people to become demotivated and go find a better way to spen I have heard quite a few developers mention privately that they are considering unsubscribing to this list because they are sick of the stupid. At what point does that do more harm than good? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [RFC] Automated package builds: Proposed Architecture (Richie Nyhus)

Thu, 2014-09-18 11:45
Buildbot Bitbucket integration via Bitbucket ' s API should solve these problems. And if not, Bamboo + its API could be added to the mix if needed. Cheers, Richard. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Eftimios Georgiadis)

Thu, 2014-09-18 11:45
But sometimes having to argue ones position tends to renew passions. And sometimes, it causes people to become demotivated and go find a better way to spen I have heard quite a few developers mention privately that they are considering unsubscribing to this list because they are sick of the stupid. At what point does that do more harm than good? - Urias ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (anders williamson)

Thu, 2014-09-18 07:45
Hi list, Donn Cave wrote: I look at it this way, while the signal to noise ratio may become unfavorable time to time, it does seem to stimulate developer motivation to flesh out passions and point of view. I think this is an important point. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Urias McCullough)

Thu, 2014-09-18 07:45
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Sean smc.collins@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I hope so, and the crew seems like robust, durable people who will be able to handle plenty of criticism etc. Just seems like it might be just tiresome to be forever revisiting the same defenses of the project's direction, for each new master debater who comes along. I agree it can be tiresome, but these conversations are generally spares, as of late there have been more then a few. Which as far as I can tell was not entirely a coincidence. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Sean)

Thu, 2014-09-18 07:45
I hope so, and the crew seems like robust, durable people who willbe able to handle plenty of criticism etc. Just seems like it mightbe just tiresome to be forever revisiting the same defenses of theproject's direction, for each new master debater who comes along. Donn ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Haiku going a peaceful blip on startup (Jim Saxton)

Thu, 2014-09-18 07:45
Dropbox seems to work, I was sent the wave file, here it is... On 9/11/14, Joao Pedro Coli Ferreira Dias jp-coli@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:04:50 -0700 Subject: [haiku-development] Re: Haiku going a peaceful blip on startup From: black.belt.jimmy@xxxxxxxxx To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx It would be nice if you posted this on a site that Web+ can handle. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Virtualbox (Kingdon Barrett)

Thu, 2014-09-18 07:45
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Kingdon Barrett kingdon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:36:18 -0700, Richie Nyhus richienyhus@xxxxxxxxx wrote: If you run into any problems using it, sign up to the HaikuPorts mailing list and give a yell: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Donn Cave)

Thu, 2014-09-18 07:45
quoth Sean, I look at it this way, while the signal to noise ratio may become unfavorable time to time, it does seem to stimulate developer motivation to flesh out passions and point of view. I hope so, and the crew seems like robust, durable people who will be able to handle plenty of criticism etc. Just seems like it might be just tiresome to be forever revisiting the same defenses of the project's direction, for each new master debater who comes along. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [RFC] Automated package builds: Proposed Architecture (Alexander von Gluck IV)

Thu, 2014-09-18 00:45
On , Augustin Cavalier wrote: Hi all, I've done a bit of RD towards automated package builds. Here's my proposed architecture: * Centralized server that watches HaikuPorts, keeps track of changes * Developers use their Trac accounts to log in and force updates ...
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[haiku-development] Re: 64 bit (Sean)

Wed, 2014-09-17 14:45
I agree. However, there's very little point in having lengthy discussions about stuff that won't become relevant anytime soon. And I can totally do without the tons of emotional and/or ignorant mails we've been seeing lately (usually by non-committers). They contribute nothing but waste the time of those who actually do contribute. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [RFC] Automated package builds: Proposed Architecture (pulkomandy)

Wed, 2014-09-17 14:45
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 01:28:14PM -0400, Augustin Cavalier wrote: On Sep 12, 2014 1:13 PM, pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Can't we just use buildbot? why would we need a custom NodeJS server for this? The buildbot is more suited towards repeatedly building a single target as code changes are made. HaikuPorts is quite different: there are many targets that don't always need to be rebuilt when one change is made. If Buildbot can do this, that's great; but I haven't heard from Oliver that it can be done. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Another Package question :) (Fredrik Modéen)

Wed, 2014-09-17 12:45
2014-09-12 07:54 skrev Ingo Weinhold: On 11.09.2014 17:09, Fredrik Modéen wrote: Can one make a service/server autostart at startaup from a package? Are this implemented? ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [RFC] Automated package builds: Proposed Architecture (Augustin Cavalier)

Wed, 2014-09-17 12:45
On Sep 12, 2014 1:13 PM, pulkomandy pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Can't we just use buildbot? why would we need a custom NodeJS server for this? The buildbot is more suited towards repeatedly building a single target as code changes ar