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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Ingo Weinhold)

Mon, 2014-10-06 13:45
On 10/02/2014 11:11 AM, Axel Dörfler wrote: Am 02.10.2014 10:23, schrieb Stephan Aßmus: Since a spinner is not always a number spinner, but can also spin between any arbitrary set of data, the arrows are much more versatile than -/+. And I would definitely prefer a general solution that works with all spinner use cases over having specialized controls. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Axel Dörfler)

Mon, 2014-10-06 13:45
Am 02.10.2014 10:23, schrieb Stephan Aßmus: ... you can see how the up and down arrows would have reversed meaning when thinking about it this way. To be honest, I think one can overthink even the simplest things :-) Since a spinner is not always a number spinner, but can also spin ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Stephan Aßmus)

Mon, 2014-10-06 13:45
Am 02.10.2014 08:57, schrieb pulkomandy: I think - and + as currently used in the Screen preflet is fine. A little example, let's say you have spinners for the X and Y coordinates of an object. For X, the up button would move right, and the down button would move left. For Y, the up button would move... down! - and + more reliably map to decrease and increase and should not have such problems. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (pulkomandy)

Mon, 2014-10-06 13:45
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 08:46:58AM +0200, Axel Dörfler wrote: Am 01.10.2014 21:06, schrieb Ingo Weinhold: On 10/01/2014 08:22 PM, John Scipione wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: But apart from that, I don't think it's that usable either since the click targets are very small. Why not use standard sized buttons like this: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Axel Dörfler)

Mon, 2014-10-06 13:45
Am 01.10.2014 21:06, schrieb Ingo Weinhold: On 10/01/2014 08:22 PM, John Scipione wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: But apart from that, I don't think it's that usable either since the click ...
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[haiku-development] Re: WebKit SSE2 requirement (François Revol)

Mon, 2014-10-06 09:45
On 02/10/2014 01:59, François Revol wrote: On 01/10/2014 23:07, sean collins wrote: these cpus are at least a decade old. changing the minimum requirements after all this time seams reasonable. and the new cpus support all the old instructions so beos software will be uneffected As I just said, I do have an Athlon XP box here and I do use it for development in parallel to my laptop. I could do with just NetSurf on this one though I suppose. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: WebKit SSE2 requirement (François Revol)

Mon, 2014-10-06 09:45
On 01/10/2014 23:07, sean collins wrote: these cpus are at least a decade old. changing the minimum requirements after all this time seams reasonable. and the new cpus support all the old instructions so beos software will be uneffected As I just said, I do have an Athlon XP box here and I do use it for development in parallel to my laptop. I could do with just NetSurf on this one though I suppose. Btw, please fix your mailer to reply with proper quoting. Here I just ...
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[haiku-development] Re: WebKit SSE2 requirement (François Revol)

Mon, 2014-10-06 07:45
On 01/10/2014 20:52, pulkomandy wrote: Hello, The JavaScript interpreter in WebKit has started to make use of SSE2 features. For the previous releases, we advertised support for i586 machines, which means SSE and SSE2 was not to be used, or detected at runtime. If we want to keep this low compatibility requirement, I will have to switch our WebKit port to the plain C code version of the JavaScript ...
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[haiku-development] Re: WebKit SSE2 requirement (sean collins)

Mon, 2014-10-06 01:45
-------- Original message -------- From: pulkomandy Date:10/01/2014 2:52 PM (GMT-05:00) To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [haiku-development] WebKit SSE2 requirement Hello, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Ingo Weinhold)

Mon, 2014-10-06 01:45
On 10/01/2014 08:22 PM, John Scipione wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: But apart from that, I don't think it's that usable either since the click targets are very small. Why not use standard sized buttons like this: +-----------------+---+---+ ...
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[haiku-development] Re: WebKit SSE2 requirement (Alexander von Gluck IV)

Sun, 2014-10-05 23:45
On , pulkomandy wrote: Hello, The JavaScript interpreter in WebKit has started to make use of SSE2 features. For the previous releases, we advertised support for i586 machines, which means SSE and SSE2 was not to be used, or detected at runtime. ...
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[haiku-development] WebKit SSE2 requirement (pulkomandy)

Sun, 2014-10-05 21:45
Hello, The JavaScript interpreter in WebKit has started to make use of SSE2 features. For the previous releases, we advertised support for i586 machines, which means SSE and SSE2 was not to be used, or detected at runtime. If we want to keep this low compatibility requirement, I will have to switch our WebKit port to the plain C code version of the JavaScript interpreter. This also means we lose the JIT capabilities, which will ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (John Scipione)

Sun, 2014-10-05 21:45
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Am 01/10/2014 17:29, schrieb John Scipione: This screenshot is a bit old but gives you the idea: It's dead ugly in any case :-) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Ralf Schülke)

Sun, 2014-10-05 19:45
Am 01.10.2014 17:23 schrieb Richie Nyhus richienyhus@xxxxxxxxx: I have never liked those 90s style spinners with the micro buttons that seem to cause you to click the button opposite of the one that you want. I'm quite happy for that old style spinner to remain part of libsanta (or was it libwalter?) and not be part of Haiku. The most of new Design are from the 60s and 70s, so Apple improve this from ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Axel Dörfler)

Sun, 2014-10-05 17:45
Am 01/10/2014 17:29, schrieb John Scipione: This screenshot is a bit old but gives you the idea: It's dead ugly in any case :-) But apart from that, I don't think it's that usable either since the ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (John Scipione)

Sun, 2014-10-05 15:45
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Richie Nyhus richienyhus@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Are native date/time spinners something that could help to decrease the chances of users getting confused? Some examples of optional and non optional date spinners: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Richie Nyhus)

Sun, 2014-10-05 15:45
We don't have native spinners, currently. I find the way they are implemented on other systems to be rather bad (with two very small buttons to increase and decrease the value, too small for practical use). I found that I never use those small buttons, and end up entering the value manually using the keyboard, and using a BTextControl for that sounds fine. I have never liked those 90s style spinners with the micro buttons that seem to cause you to click the button opposite of the one that you want. I'm quite happy for that old style spinner to remain part of libsanta (or ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (pulkomandy)

Sun, 2014-10-05 15:45
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 11:25:00PM +1300, Richie Nyhus wrote: Are native date/time spinners something that could help to decrease the chances of users getting confused? Some examples of optional and non optional date spinners: ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Richie Nyhus)

Sun, 2014-10-05 15:45
Are native date/time spinners something that could help to decrease the chances of users getting confused? Some examples of optional and non optional date spinners: ~Richie ...
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[haiku-development] Re: RFC: B_INVALID flag for BControlLook (Stephan Aßmus)

Sat, 2014-10-04 17:45
Am 01.10.2014 11:07, schrieb Axel Dörfler: Am 01.10.2014 09:34, schrieb pulkomandy: At first I thought of filtering input to my text field to allow only digits. This is rather difficult to implement, as we only have support for excluding characters from the allowed input range of a BTextView. Moreover, I now think this is a bad idea, because it leads to rejecting user input without any feedback, and will look like the field is not ...
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