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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Marcus Jacob)

Tue, 2013-06-04 23:45
On 04.06.2013, at 10:38, Stephan Aßmus superstippi@xxxxxx wrote: Hi, Am 04.06.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Marcus Jacob rossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: On 04.06.2013, at 08:05, Chris Peel chrispeel.mail@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Raises an interesting debate about what Haiku is meant to be. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Dario Casalinuovo)

Tue, 2013-06-04 23:45
I don't think the software valet name is self-descriptive at all. Maybe it could be for English speaking people, but i was just thinking on how it could be translated to Italian, and i ended up that it would be misunderstood/confusing, for example valet is pretty similar to valletta which usually refers to assistant/dancers girls in tv shows (and similar things). In some other meanings it could be intended as the masculine valletto, which become from the middle ages and was referred to the knight squire (this is a meaning in disuse, but you can find it already in dictionaries). ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Stephan Aßmus)

Tue, 2013-06-04 21:45
Hi, Am 04.06.2013 um 10:51 schrieb Chris Peel chrispeel.mail@xxxxxxxxx: Ok, so I'm now straying off-topic here and I should create a new thread (maybe one exists already) - but crucially then, what is Haiku if its not a continuation of BeOS? Without a clear goal, there's a danger it will either meander or will simply be seen as a another Linux distro/clone. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Chris Peel)

Tue, 2013-06-04 21:45
Ok, so I'm now straying off-topic here and I should create a new thread (maybe one exists already) - but crucially then, what is Haiku if its not a continuation of BeOS? Without a clear goal, there's a danger it will either meander or will simply be seen as a another Linux distro/clone. ​For me, I was expecting Haiku to continue the BeOS ethic of a minimalist ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Stephan Aßmus)

Tue, 2013-06-04 21:45
Hi, Am 04.06.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Marcus Jacob rossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: On 04.06.2013, at 08:05, Chris Peel chrispeel.mail@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Raises an interesting debate about what Haiku is meant to be. ​If it's a homage to BeOS, just as AmigaOS 4 is to AmigaOS 3, then you should stick with Software Valet as the name. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Chris Peel)

Tue, 2013-06-04 21:45
I do like Haiku Depot too - has a nice ring to it (like the semi tongue-in-cheek nature of BeOS of old) and, as you mention, it's a natural progression from BeDepot. ​Perhaps the icon could be a truck with apps loaded in it. And I loved the restaurant analogy - I'd never considered that before!  ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Marcus Jacob)

Tue, 2013-06-04 21:45
On 04.06.2013, at 08:05, Chris Peel chrispeel.mail@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Raises an interesting debate about what Haiku is meant to be. ​If it's a homage to BeOS, just as AmigaOS 4 is to AmigaOS 3, then you should stick with Software Valet as the name. +1 Afaik I thought Haiku R1 is more or less a reimplementation of BeOS R5. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Axel Dörfler)

Tue, 2013-06-04 21:45
Am 04/06/2013 09:20, schrieb Stephan Aßmus: On 04.06.2013 00:57, Urias McCullough wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Jessica Hamilton jessica.l.hamilton@xxxxxxxxx wrote: +1 to Software Valet :-) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Axel Dörfler)

Tue, 2013-06-04 21:45
Am 04/06/2013 05:49, schrieb Sean Collins: I'll reiterate something here, I wouldn't ask the sales people to write the OS, in the same way that I wouldn't ask the engineers to name it and market it. Sounds like you really understood how open source works ;-) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Stephan Aßmus)

Tue, 2013-06-04 19:45
Hi, On 04.06.2013 00:57, Urias McCullough wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Jessica Hamilton jessica.l.hamilton@xxxxxxxxx wrote: +1 to Software Valet :-) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Chintan Bhatt)

Tue, 2013-06-04 19:45
Name should be very clear meaningful to *users*. Download Applications or Install Application or Application Store On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Chris Peel chrispeel.mail@xxxxxxxxxwrote: Raises an interesting debate about what Haiku is meant to be. If it's a homage to BeOS, just as AmigaOS 4 is to AmigaOS 3, then you should stick with Software Valet as the name. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Chris Peel)

Tue, 2013-06-04 19:45
Raises an interesting debate about what Haiku is meant to be. ​If it's a homage to BeOS, just as AmigaOS 4 is to AmigaOS 3, then you should stick with Software Valet as the name. ​If you're intending to sell out and try to be mass market (a pretty tall order considering the number of failed and competing Linux distros out there), then ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Denis)

Tue, 2013-06-04 19:45
On 3 Jun 2013, at 23:55, StreaK spam.acidpit@xxxxxxxxx wrote: John Scipione wrote: I was thinking it might be neat to name the graphical package manager for Haiku Software Valet harking back to the old application on BeOS. I've done a bit of research on the legal status of the trademark and it doesn't appear as if Be ever registered a trademark for Software ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Alexander von Gluck)

Tue, 2013-06-04 17:45
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 16:47 -0400, John Scipione wrote: I was thinking it might be neat to name the graphical package manager for Haiku Software Valet harking back to the old application on BeOS. I've done a bit of research on the legal status of the trademark and it doesn't appear as if Be ever registered a trademark for Software Valet either in the US or in Europe, and it doesn't appear that anybody else has since either, so, we're in the clear to use the name if we want to. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Urias McCullough)

Tue, 2013-06-04 17:45
Maybe Software-O-Matic/Package-O-Matic :D On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Disreali mdisreali@xxxxxxxxx wrote: I never cared for the '*-o-matic' app names. Yeah, it was in jest :) I'd probably stick with something simple, like Package Selector or something of that sort. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Sean Collins)

Tue, 2013-06-04 17:45
Rene Gollent wrote: -1. If we're going to do an homage, then at least pick something that's actually deserves it. R5 SoftwareValet wasn't that great to begin with, and as such I don't think it qualifies. Furthermore I'd have to agree with Urias as to it not being that great of a name to begin with. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Rene Gollent)

Tue, 2013-06-04 15:45
On Jun 3, 2013 10:16 PM, Disreali mdisreali@xxxxxxxxx wrote:. Besides, it would be a nice homage to BeOS if we use SoftwareValet, which I think sounds much classier. -1. If we're going to do an homage, then at least pick something that's actually deserves it. R5 SoftwareValet wasn't that great to begin with, and as such I don't think it qualifies. Furthermore I'd have to agree with Urias as to it not being that great of a name to begin with. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Disreali)

Tue, 2013-06-04 15:45
Hi, --- On Mon, 6/3/13, Urias McCullough umccullough@xxxxxxxxx wrote: From: Urias McCullough umccullough@xxxxxxxxx Subject: [haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Jessica Hamilton jessica.l.hamilton@xxxxxxxxx wrote: +1 to Software Valet :-) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Name the package manager Software Valet (Pete Goodeve)

Tue, 2013-06-04 15:45
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 08:09:22PM -0400, Sean Collins wrote: Urias McCullough wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Jessica Hamilton jessica.l.hamilton@xxxxxxxxx wrote: +1 to Software Valet :-) -1 from me - I never actually liked that name ...
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