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[haiku-development] Re: Non-standard headers in default compiler search path (François Revol)

Sat, 2015-05-02 20:45
On 15/04/2015 19:16, Jérôme Duval wrote: 1) Remove this from the default include path, and let applications needing it manually pass the required -I options to the compiler. 2) Protect all the extensions with a define (such as BSD_SOURCE) and require applications to define that. This is what is done in glibc (using features.h to control what is or is not included), so it would be a more usual solution, possibly saving us some work in configure scripts ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Adrien Destugues)

Sat, 2015-05-02 20:45
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 07:12:26PM +0200, Jérôme Duval wrote: useable. For the nightlies this is not a problem, as we can update the repos with new packages as problems are found. For the releases, there is a different maintenance plan where only the haikuports packages can be updated (not the core haiku ones). And even there, we must take care of not breaking anything (for example our current unzip package is broken and will crash on some files). We should also make sure there are ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Non-standard headers in default compiler search path (Jérôme Duval)

Sat, 2015-05-02 20:45
2015-04-14 19:03 GMT+02:00 Adrien Destugues pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxx: 1) Remove this from the default include path, and let applications needing it manually pass the required -I options to the compiler. 2) Protect all the extensions with a define (such as BSD_SOURCE) and require applications to define that. This is what is done in glibc (using features.h to control what is or is not included), so it would be a more usual solution, possibly saving us some work in configure scripts looking for these extensions. Leave the headers in the standard include ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Jérôme Duval)

Sat, 2015-05-02 20:45
2015-04-14 7:15 GMT+02:00 Adrien Destugues pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxx: useable. For the nightlies this is not a problem, as we can update the repos with new packages as problems are found. For the releases, there is a different maintenance plan where only the haikuports packages can be updated (not the core haiku ones). And even there, we must take care of not breaking anything (for example our current unzip package is broken and will crash on some files). We should also make sure there are ...
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[haiku-development] Non-standard headers in default compiler search path (Adrien Destugues)

Sat, 2015-05-02 18:45
Hi, I am working with the cdrecord developer to get it working on Haiku again. We found that /system/develop/headers/compatibility/bsd is in the compiler default include search path. This is a bit annoying, because the purpose of this folder is to hold non-standard functions we copied from the *BSD. This means the function names are not reserver and possibly a standard C application could redefine them (and use the same names for something completely different). ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Ithamar Adema)

Sat, 2015-05-02 18:45
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Axel Dörfler axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: releases and snapshot releases. Snapshots are taken at a point in time when code is more stableish. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Axel Dörfler)

Sat, 2015-05-02 18:45
Am 14/04/2015 um 16:04 schrieb kallisti5: Any thoughts on going the Cyanogenmod route? Cyanogenmod has nightly releases and snapshot releases. Snapshots are taken at a point in time when code is more stableish. I think that sounds like a somewhat neat solution to our immediate lack of a release. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (kallisti5)

Sat, 2015-05-02 18:45
On 2015-04-14 08:52, kallisti5 wrote: On 2015-04-14 08:38, Adrien Destugues wrote: As for alpha / beta release repositories... Lets just set them to current by default and be done with it. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Axel Dörfler)

Sat, 2015-05-02 18:45
Am 14/04/2015 um 15:25 schrieb kallisti5: I still don't understand what is so horribly known broken. (trac also confirms 0 blockers that are PM related). Our packages do need rebuilt and refreshed, but given you can install a nightly from a year ago and continuously update the same installation through today... that's pretty stable for nightly software :-) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (kallisti5)

Sat, 2015-05-02 16:45
On 2015-04-14 00:15, Adrien Destugues wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:42:04PM -0400, Andrew Hudson wrote: I also think we should now revisit whether the next release is Alpha or Beta. It's been quite a long time since our last serious release discussion, and since that time it is not clear to me that we have made any substantial progress towards resolving the package management issues. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Axel Dörfler)

Sat, 2015-05-02 16:45
Am 14/04/2015 um 14:47 schrieb kallisti5: I already did this quite some time ago. We could add a warning that the last release is already quite outdated, and does not reflect the status quo. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (kallisti5)

Sat, 2015-05-02 12:45
On 2015-04-14 00:15, Adrien Destugues wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:42:04PM -0400, Andrew Hudson wrote: I also think we should now revisit whether the next release is Alpha or Beta. It's been quite a long time since our last serious release discussion, and since that time it is not clear to me that we have made any substantial progress towards resolving the package management issues. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Adrien Destugues)

Sat, 2015-05-02 12:45
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:42:04PM -0400, Andrew Hudson wrote: It's been quite a long time since our last serious release discussion, and since that time it is not clear to me that we have made any substantial progress towards resolving the package management issues. If we are stalled on package management, I think that will keep pushing a Beta release out, right?. So the next best option is Alpha 5 release. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Andrew Hudson)

Sat, 2015-05-02 12:45
From: Earl Pottinger dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [haiku-development] Re: The next release noticed that when Haiku is mentioned on websites like OSNews and SlashDot.org that someone always claims the software has not been updated in years because the main Haiku-OS website points to Alpha-4 but there is no easy way for ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Earl Pottinger)

Sat, 2015-05-02 10:45
One very good reason to do a release whether it be Alpha or Beta is I have noticed that when Haiku is mentioned on websites like OSNews and SlashDot.org that someone always claims the software has not been updated in years because the main Haiku-OS website points to Alpha-4 but there is no easy way for beginners to see that the nightly updates from the same main page. Or at-least add a link to the nightly page on the main page below installing Haiku. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: The next release (Richie Nyhus-Smith)

Sat, 2015-05-02 10:45
Here is a list of requirements: 1) We need the thing to work and schedule build of packages on buildbots, Here is a list of nice-to-have things: ...
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