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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Mon, 2016-12-05 17:45
Whynotdropgcc2andBeOSr5compatibility,deneedmoreuserand developeranddecanthisdo,letsdo.Allargumentswithgcc2areoutof time. Am01.12.201622:22schriebkallisti5kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx: ...
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[haiku-development] Pitt CS capstone - help with Haiku OS?

Mon, 2016-12-05 17:45
HelloHaikuOSmailinglist- IbrieflydiscussedwithMr.WaddlesplashonTwitterhavingagroupof ComputerSciencestudentsatmyschoolhelpwithHaikuOSfortheirCapstone project.Theymentionedthatthiswouldbethebestplacetopostinformation andseeifit'ssomethingthatyouwouldwanttohavethemworkon. Togiveyousomebackground,everyPittCSmajorhastodoacapstone projectbeforetheygraduate.Thiscanbedoneinseveralways-an internship,aco-op,aresearchassignment,etc.Anotherwayistoworkona ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 23:45
On2016-12-0115:02,AdrienDestugueswrote: OnThu,Dec01,2016at09:44:27PM+0100,IngoWeinholdwrote: On12/01/201604:55PM,kallisti5wrote: Throughalloftheseconversations,i'veneveroncesaidtogetrid ofgcc2(atleastuntilR2andbeyond;-))Inmyeyeshaving x86_64+gcc2wouldbeidealforR2(butweneedtoworkonrunning32-bit codeon64-bitsystems) ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 23:45
OnThu,Dec01,2016at09:44:27PM+0100,IngoWeinholdwrote: ofgcc2(atleastuntilR2andbeyond;-))Inmyeyeshaving x86_64+gcc2wouldbeidealforR2(butweneedtoworkonrunning32-bit codeon64-bitsystems) Justforsakeofcompleteness,sincethatargumenthasn'tbeenmentionedin thisiterationofthediscussionyet:Keepinggcc2supportatall--even justasasecondaryarchitecture--meansthatthecodethatneedstobe ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 23:45
On12/01/201604:55PM,kallisti5wrote: Throughalloftheseconversations,i'veneveroncesaidtogetrid ofgcc2(atleastuntilR2andbeyond;-))Inmyeyeshaving x86_64+gcc2wouldbeidealforR2(butweneedtoworkonrunning32-bit codeon64-bitsystems) Just for sake of completeness, since that argument hasn't been mentioned ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 23:45
On2016-12-0112:42,kallisti5wrote: On2016-12-0112:34,AndrewLindesaywrote: Hello; The idea of having repo servers in multiple geographic regions has come ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 23:45
On2016-12-0112:34,AndrewLindesaywrote: Hello; The idea of having repo servers in multiple geographic regions has come upbefore,wouldthisbeagoodtimetolookintothat?Ourcurrent infrastructureisprettyslowoutsideofEurope. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 21:45
Hello; upbefore,wouldthisbeagoodtimetolookintothat?Ourcurrent infrastructureisprettyslowoutsideofEurope. Onthisnote;woulditbeOKtoaddaGUIDfortherepositories?Iam currentlyusingtheaccess-URLasauniquekeybetweentheHaikuDepot desktopenvironmentandtheapplicationserver,butthisapproachwill stopworkingoncetherearemirrorsinplace. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 21:45
ofgcc2(atleastuntilR2andbeyond;-))Inmyeyeshaving x86_64+gcc2wouldbeidealforR2(butweneedtoworkonrunning32-bit codeon64-bitsystems) forpeoplewhowantHaikuforotherreasonsthanBeOScompatibility,wecan recommendx86_64.Thisshouldcoveraquitewiderangeofusersatthispoint. Wecankeepgcc2hforpeoplewhoneedBeOScompatibility,asithasthemaximal compatibility. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 21:45
On2016-12-0109:19,AdrienDestugueswrote: I'm not sure what great feat of engineering is needed to switch to gcc5h. Weliterallyalreadyhaveitandawidesetofpackages. I'm looking for ways to attract new developers. I've had someone tell me ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 21:45
Weliterallyalreadyhaveitandawidesetofpackages. I'mlookingforwaystoattractnewdevelopers.I'vehadsomeonetellme wedon'tcareaboutuserswhowalkawayfromHaikuduetogcc2. Thatistheworstpossiblepositiontohaveonthisstuff. That'snotwhatIsaid,andIthinkyouarereferringtome. whatIsaidis,ifpeopledon'tspendthe30secondsittakestodiscoverthat ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 19:45
On2016-11-3020:12,DarioCasalinuovowrote: Hi, What'sthedealwithreplicants,driversandscreensaversnot working withnewerGCCversions?Justcurious. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 19:45
Hi, What'sthedealwithreplicants,driversandscreensaversnotworking Thereisabinaryincompatibilitybetweengcc2andgcc5binaries(ABI) Wehavethehybridbuildsthatincludeduplicategcc2copiesofsystem librariesonthegcc5system,however(running)tracker,(running)kernel, ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 19:45
On November 30, 2016, at 4:03 PM, kallisti5 kallisti5@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Nowontothebiggerelephant... Ipersonallystill*really*wanttoseeR1tobex86gcc4h(cough gcc5h). Ithinkwemissedthegcc2hboatyearsago. gcc2hin2006madesense. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 19:45
iamsurethedownloadcountsisonlyaeffect,thatgcc2hybridetheonly vesionis,heispreffer,sousersdownloadthisversion. WhenHaikuprefferthex86_64andanewcompilergccorllvm/clangthen willmorepeoplethisdownload. Ithinkitsagoodtohaveonesupportetversionasrollingrelease,forme iamhappywhenwehavex86_64andllvm/clangandsomebsduserlandtools (POSIXsingeluser). Ihavenoproblemwhenwebrakethebeosr5stuff. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: [haiku] Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 17:45
On2016-11-3015:02,kallisti5wrote: I'mreviewingthedownloadsiteandcleaningupsomelanguagearound changingtotheanybootiso. Ourcurrentdownloadpagesareacomplexmazeofusethestable,use thenightly,usethestable,usethenightly! AreweatthepointthatwewanttonolongerrecommendR1A4tousers? It's*so*oldnow(4years!). ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 17:45
OnWed,Nov30,2016at03:02:26PM-0600,kallisti5wrote: Ithinkwemissedthegcc2hboatyearsago. gcc2hin2006madesense. gcc2hin2016makes0sense. Thelistofsoftwarethatevencompilesongcc2isshrinkingrapidly...why arewedoingthistoourselves? ...
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[haiku-development] Future releases? Recommend nightlies? gcc2?

Sun, 2016-12-04 17:45
I'm reviewing the download site and cleaning up some language around changing to the anyboot iso. Our current download pages are a complex maze of use the stable, use the nightly, use the stable, use the nightly! Are we at the point that we want to no longer recommend R1A4 to users? It's *so* old now (4 years!). ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Dropping the Haiku ISO

Sun, 2016-12-04 17:45
On2016-11-2919:09,DennisCattwrote: kallisti5, TobehonestIhaven'tusedanythingbuttheISOsuptothispoint. I'mnotknowledgeableontheothertwowhatsoever.I'mcurrently runningHaikuA4andHaikunightlies(usuallyupdateonceamonth) usingVirtualBoxuntilHaikugetstoB1andI'llbuildaDIYPCtorun itgoingforward. ...
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[haiku-development] Re: Dropping the Haiku ISO

Sat, 2016-12-03 16:45
kallisti5, TobehonestIhaven'tusedanythingbuttheISOsuptothispoint.I'm notknowledgeableontheothertwowhatsoever.I'mcurrentlyrunningHaiku A4andHaikunightlies(usuallyupdateonceamonth)usingVirtualBoxuntil HaikugetstoB1andI'llbuildaDIYPCtorunitgoingforward. I'minfavorofdroppingISOsbutmaybegooddocumentationwouldbe necessaryforfolksnotfamiliarwiththeothertwo.Mosttechnically mindedfolksunderstandISOsandhowtodealwiththem,butmaybenotthe ...
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