Design team? So let's get talking about Haiku's look!

For R1, like R5.

After that, I really like the mockups Stuart did a while ago:

Simon

I like tb100's design, though it will consume more system performance than the R5 design. When Haiku R2 is ready to use, we may already have dual-core machines, so there should be enough performance.

I think, a well-looking and modern look for the GUI is important for Haiku's market success. So I would like so see a well-designed GUI.

God damn it! The only reason why i running Dano instead R5 it is look. I like Danos decors, snake menu, buttons, bars etc. Nice and simple.

I don't like Stuart McCoy mockup. Better stay with R5 look.

I like that:

Minus the stupid pulsing (which can be stopped by setting the pulse colour to purple as well), I actually like the Dano UI. Prior to around R4, the UI in BeOS was really, well, mucky. Didn't look or feel right, even it is virtually the same as R5 has.

I think that the BeOS r5 GUI is beautiful and I haven't seen anything I would want to replace it. I do like parts of other skins, but on the whole r5 is it for me. I would certainly vote to put cosmetic interface updates at the bottom of the To-Do list for Haiku.

eh eh .... first, we have to think about:
- what a GUI for ?
- why i like this and not this ?
- what the GUI could give us ?
- what should be skinnable or not ?
- how to keep it very user friendly ?

I am not against the zSnake and the buttons style of Dano/Zeta. First time i have shown BeOS to a friend, he said "whaou ... fast ! But ... the GUI is out to date !" .... then 6 months after i show him Zeta andthen he says "eh eh ... getting better !! I like it !". I'm totally agree, i prefer the small shadow behind buttons instead of the big border ... i feel it sexier :)
After that, purple wouldn't be the color i would choose ;)

For tabs, yes i like the old R5 style and in fact i'm getting used to the Zeta Menlo one too. Smooth corners is cool.

In the second muckup, what i really really like it gradients in attributes cases and the small shadow behind contextual menus and windows. It really makes it smooth. But the tab is ugly and buttons in it are too small. Same thing about scrollbars ... simply ... beurk.

In the third muckup, i like ... well no i don't like it :)
Too small scrollbars (think about people using touchpad) and i don't have a NASA precison mouse lol. Still this u*** purple and buttons in the tab are really too small ! (for a skin in the same way, i prefer the DanO style "Origin"). This dark grey makes me want to cry ....
Mainly i feel it rude.

I don't want lots of colors, i need medium size buttons and scrollbars and a rounded tab (of course in yellow :) ). For Haiku R1, the goal of this release is to remake BeOS R5 with some improvments or for some things in a better way. I think we should keep the same idea for the GUI, makes it first classic but with some improvments like a small shadow behind menus and windows and a gradient in attributes cases (muckup 2) but build it already with a theme system.

That's what i think, that's my personnal feeling about it, not less, not more. I will make some muckups also if i could find some time for it :)

It isn't my mockup. Look here
I agree with beosfrance - Timothy Martin mockup (3rd presented) need tweaking. I just show you direction to follow. Do you can just copy R5 or Dano look? I don't think so! You have seen how BeOS was changed from R5 to Dano. So evolve it further. It must be specific like it was in the past! I doubt that such changes can be done in near future though. Right now I'm cool with fact that Haiku R1 will look like BeOS 5 with some little improvments.

I just hope that R1 gui will be show to the public before will be to late. I think we don't need be suprised like we were with new OpenBeOS name. :D. I get used to it now. But gui is MUCH more important. So... familiarize us sooner :wink:.

The gui for R1 will look almost exactly the same as R5 - so you can get used to it already!

The "decors" that are available are not full blown skins, they just change the tab/border of the window and that's about it (maybe scrollbars too as they are drawn by the app server in R5 - they're just another Interface Kit object in R1, so they might not be "decor"-able either).

Simon

But will the tabs slide?

BeJay

I don't like each of them...too far from the BeOS's PE look

Mu

Some changes were needed on the upper edge to keep Deskbar/Tracker accessible.
The two small images represent top-left and top-right corner in a maximized situation.

No, this is quite something like the Origin theme (available in Dano and Zeta RC1) and is doesn't slide, no.

Btw, i have never used this slide option ...

I prefer that menuing system to any other mockups I've seen - and of course a BMenu is a BMenu, so it'd carry into the applications.

ooooo. beautiful menus. and there's something about a plain white OK button that makes me really happy.

excellent work!

I want haiku to look better than win xp, and look something like

Make it look like MacOS, bye bye half of the old guard of BeOS users

Make it look anything thats not like BeOS, bye bye users

Remi (beosfrance)'s mockups are by far the best because it LOOKS like BeOS, just modernised. All the others look, well, not like BeOS. BeOS is yellow, grey and blue, with tabs; and relatively simplistic widgets. Its as simple as that - that is BeOS's GUI. Some of the ones here look more suited to KDE than BeOS.

Say that BeOS is ugly and you'll get killed. BeOS is NOT ugly. MacOS X is disgusting though - horribly over busy, way too over designed.

OSX is a piece of crap graphically.

Actually, better answer is

If you want the OS to look like MacOS, use a Mac.

Same for other people - if you want to use Linux apps, use Linux. Same for Windows.

BeOS already looks good. Making it look like the Mac would DEMORALISE people, as the extra graphical overhead would be painful, you'd have less space on screen, theres no way you could use 8/15/16 bit colour, etc

And the Mac has a disgusting interface. Always has, always will.

These are completely 100% opinions... they shouldn't be stated as facts.

It's all subjective. I too hate the Mac OS X look - and I always switch a Windows XP gui back to "Classic" mode whenever I use it.. I like it simple and usable... all that other stuff sucks up memory and CPU cycles (this is factual) while making the OS look like a toy (in my opinion).

the MacOS X look is not that ugly to me, but a bit too seen nowdays. i was a big lover of the old striped white instead of this too dark brushed metal. It makes your system very dark and makes me feel a bit depress. What i like in my muckups is the colorful way, but not to much (no Rio carnival GUI please !!!)

i have to make some more muckups with (it for you tb100 :)) checkboxes, tabs and things like that. Perhaps i will do it for some step by step GUI Helios ideas, so i would be two hits in once :)

Mainly, i love the DanO checkboxes style, cause they are animated (radio buttons have the small horizontal line drawing in two frame ... makes it smooth. Same for checkboxes)

I was hoping to sleep a couple of hours tonight but ... well ... designing muckups is far more interesting and funny :)

MacOS is not something to admire or drool over - its a space wasting, ugly interface that will not age well - come on, metal theming is already out of date, in a few years time X.3 will be seriously showing its age theme wise, wheras the BeOS GUI has stood 8 years and still looks relatively fresh

The complete lack of UI consistancy on the Mac is vomit inducing, not drool enducing

If you want to use a Mac, go use a Mac. Stop bugging us here.