Finally have my little HaikuBox (Zotac Zbox+)

Congrats!

To solve your boot problem I think you need to install the haiku boot manager, bootman. IIRC you have to go into the terminal and type "bootman" to get it installed. Sorry I couldn't be of more help since all my systems multi-boot so I either use GRUB or Chameleon in the case of a hackintosh.

Alan

Works fine with my OCZ Agility.

Hello,

I bought the zbox id41 today which has the same cpu and chipset that you mention. Mine is not compatible. It defaults to VESA, which means the graphics card is not supported, and the native resolution of my screen is not supported. Neither WIFI nor LAN seems to work. I don't know about sound as I didn't get that far with it.

Isn't it time to focus on making a few system 100% compatible with haiku? I realize that the project doesn't have many developers, and I'm not trying to tell the team how to do their job, but as an ordinary user, who would like to use the OS and have tried and failed two times now in finding a compatible system, I'm on the edge of giving up on the OS.

And now someone might point me to HaikuWares hardware database, but, as I have written before, that is the must useless hardware compatibility database I have every seen. A lot of the hardware there is so old it can no longer be purchased. Hardware listed as compatible is ususally only partially compatible (for example graphics cards listed as compatible but only running VESA or sound cards listed as compatible but only the output works etc.).

Just my thoughts

Peter

As I write this, I am watching three Xvid movies on my Intel D525MW based system. The catch is that I had to put the HD in another system to do the install since the haiku boot processs does not seem to be able to find the USB stick. This is one of my special dual boot USB sticks that can also boot Ubuntu linux via the GRUB bootloader and linux boots just fine. Once it's installed, haiku runs just fine. I've got build 42061(alpha3) on it but even build 43192 wont boot and I've flashed the BIOS to the most recent version. I guess it's time to file a bug report.

On the other hand, the few other systems I've tried haiku on recently have all booted. One is a brand new H67 Sandy Bridge (core i5 2500) which has major issues, being so new but, Michael Lotz the developer who is being paid by Haiku Inc. to work on haiku full time has just got nimself a brand new Sandy Bridge laptop so, I'm hoping that when he tweaks the intel extreme and HD Audio drivers to work on his laptop the fixes will work for me too. The most recent system was on old Biostar M7VIG 400 based system that had major issues with the speed booting from the USB stick (both haiku and linux) but once the operating systems are installed it runs just fine. I did have to go into media preferences and select the HDA as the output but, having done that, I got audio out.

The problem is that, when it comes to x86 based platforms, there are literally thousands (millions?) of combinations of all the different pieces of hardware that system vendors can come up with. In this scenario, it is really an achievement for the relatively small team of developers to have come up with a system that supports as much hardware as haiku already does. One solution would be send the developers an example of each piece of hardware that doesn't work. Just joking! On the other hand my D525MW only costs US$75.25 from Newegg.com plus 15 bucks for 2GB RAM with free shipping and you have a donation that I'd gladly make.

Alan

It is. I agree, but VESA just isn't good enough when your screens native resolution isn't supported. Besides, what I was aiming at (and have aimed at several times in the past) is a HAIKU-only box where everything is compatible (sound, graphics and wifi cards). And when I say compatible I don't mean VESA or sound out-only. I mean fully compatible.

Such a machine exists or it could be assembled from parts, but where do I look to find such a system or parts? This is the problem. There is no where to look for this.

/Peter

I agree. I would order one immediately, even sign up for pre-orders if that would help.

The Haiku organization is very small, I am in Canada, many are in the US, most developers as far as I can tell are in Europe. Filling orders world-wide will be a big problem. Not impossible, but anywhere they base it will incur big shipping charges for somebody else-where.

Macsociety, how has everything been going thus far with Haiku on the Zotac Zbox+?

Just want to give an update on my experience with haiku on a Sandy Bridge system. Following a flurry of activity by Axel, improving GPT support, mostly in Drivesetup, I tried installing again on my Hackintosh, built using an Intel DH67GDB3, H67 based motherboard and and a 3.3Ghz, quad core, i5 2500. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it booted, as previous attempts (months ago) had resulted in visits to KDL. Not only did it boot but sound works and network status shows the built in network interface.

It's using the VESA graphics driver so it doesn't accommodate the resolutions my monitor is capable of but, the thing is sick fast. Running GLTeapot in the default sized window, the FPS display is changing too fast to read accurately but, the first digit is alternating between 5 and 6, that is, roughly 600 frames per second all using less than 30% of all four cores! I had to "add" eight more teapots to get the FPS display to slow down to just under 100 frames per second. It is rendering 9 teapots at over 90 frames per second and using less than 50% of all four cores! That is just insane!

In terms of cost, one popular US online retailer has the same motherboard with the dual core i3 2100 and 8GB of memory for US$260. Using the same CPU I have, the combination would set you back $360 and using the newer "Ivy Bridge" 3.4Ghz, i5 3570 will actually cost $5 less while dropping power consumption from 95W to 77W. As of now, the only combination I can vouch for is the one I have. Has anyone tried haiku on an "Ivy Bridge" based system?

Alan

I suppose I could and now that you mention it, I do have a couple budget Radeon cards that I bought when I thought there was no way Mac OS X would accommodate the built in graphics. Turns out that Snow Leopard can use the built in HD2000 graphics, although in a very limited sense and Lion supports the chipset fully since apparently, Apple has built some models the use it. As a result I have no intention to ever install the video cards and I am looking forward to the day when one of the haiku devs that owns a Sandy Bridge based PC adds support for the built in graphics to the intel extreme driver. That being said, I will definitely try one (or both) of the Radeon cards, see what haiku does with it and report back to the community.

Note that based on the rendering performance with the VESA driver, I expect that, using an accelerated driver, the performance at my screens optimum resolution should still be very impressive!

Alan

Hi, macsociety.

I saw that a Zotac Zbox ID-12Plus running Haiku Release R1A4 was referenced on the webpage linked below:

http://haikuware.com/details/zotac-zbox-id-12plus

The description at that webpage was added on February 9th, 2013, several days after your most recent post to this message thread. The username associated with the description at the webpage linked above is HaikuSociety. Because that username is similar to the one that you use for the haiku-os.org website forums, I thought that I would inquire here to see if you had posted the description at the webpage linked above. If not, I understand. If you did post the description about the successful running of Haiku on the Zotac computer, is Haiku still running successfully on it?

Thank you.

John