Firefox needs a new Icon

Do I understand that you want a completly different icon? If it's just that you want it to be scalable it is in the works for the Haiku builds thanks to stippi.

How is that simpler and less "complex" than a fox wrapped around a globe (which is probably more recognizeable for a web browser)? There are probably some branding issues here as well, but if possible, the best thing would be to just "Haikuify" it making it comply to the HVIF guide lines, something like what's have been done for making the Firefox icon follow Tango rules: http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4509/tangofirefoxpngnl1.png

Another point is that the Firefox logo is pretty well known on computers all around, just like the IE logo. I don't think changing it is a really good idea. Making it a bit more Haiku, so that it looks more integrated, would be fine though.

I don't think we should mess around with icons for other apps. Also, native apps will look and act like they belong on haiku and legacy apps like firefox won't. Changing the icon won't change the fact that firefox wasn't designed for Haiku in mind.

Why is Firefox called -most of the time- Bon Echo in haiku?

IceCat could alway be used aswell.

When the build is not doing according to how official builds should be done, the name is BonEcho. This includes all builds which have one or more patches in them. Usually it means you are using a better build when it comes to Haiku.

CVS builds lags behind a lot due to the many hoops we have to jump thru to even get code commited.

(Replying is totally messed up. Now it even thinks I'm replying to myself.)

These questions still remains; Could the icon be made scaleable using the HVIF standard? (probably) Could it be altered to follow the HVIF guidelines (colors, perspective), without altering it too much?

Well that is the thing, since he are dealing with a clause of a legal agreement, then it would be rather prudent (I think) to have some dialogue with the trademark holder over what can and can't be done with the said trademark since every attempt to view the pacifies only give rather vague answers.

If I am to make an suggestion, take this to the Mozilla and take it slow. It might not happen in quick fashion... but they will consider it (if the little flare up at Ubuntu with Moz Co with the EULA is anything to go by) and if he have an concise plan, they may reconsider (Fedora managed it, which oddly helped out the Ubuntu EULA flack).

But again, asking others what we might like to see in the icon/logo requirements and taking a sit-down with a few legal minds to hatch out a plan/idea's to take to Moz.

Dont't take this as flaming, but a native browser! firefox is the best browser the oss has to offer and coding an own browser for haiku seems to me as a wasteful and an unnecessary effort. Can you give me some info on what a native browser would bring to haiku that firefox already doesn't have or couldn't be added? Granted, I don't know how much work it is to even maintain an up to date port of firefox with all of it's dependencies compared to coding a piece of software that does essentially the same and works as well as firefox does.

In my opinion haiku should port as much as possible software from open unixes, the prime example being the already ported vlc media player + libavcodec.
My point being, don't reinvent the wheel. If it doesn't suit your needs as it is, modify it.

just wondering if a tanuki could be a suitable mascot/brand for a native browser? it's cute, it's japanese and it uses a leaf to do transformations...

After playing around in Icon-O-Matic, here's some icons.
The ones on the right side were purely for fun :)
http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mockupiconsns6.png

I've always thought that it was a Sloth. :D

There are two monkeys(It would make more sense that they are gibbons etc, and not sloths) on the debug icon, one debugging the other.

oops, when i made that icon I thought about snow macaques...

You (and stippi) definitely make beautiful icons :)

hehe, Stippi said the same thing about that ( and others like mail daemon icon )...usually server icons are seen during shutdown process, and in haiku is so fast that few can notice them...surely I won't propose to slow down the system to make those icons more visible ;)

I made a tanuki icon, but not compliant to guidelines

If I remember correctly are still missing the app_server, midi, media_addon and print server icons; the last is the one that requires the less effort (pick the printer icon and add an overlay hand)...for the app_server I did a sketch on paper about "painting a window" but I ain't quite convinced, about media_addon the companion for the barrel organ ( the current media_server icon) is a monkey+cymbals, but there are too many animals, haiku is not a zoo!!

So another idea is to swap the icon from the media_server to midi_server and draw some brand new icons for the remaining two items.

Ops, I forgot the net_server...this is done, there is the icon from Stippi used for network status, we just need to remove the status light.

Icons, themes, windows, visual control components and etc that made up the GUI represent the outer identity of an OS. Power and serious users, programmers and geeks favor the command prompt /shell to reach the inner working of an OS, but GUI appeal to most people: they are mimic objects that users are so everyday accustomed to, and icons, linking commands being actually "files" (note again a metaphor) buried deep down the sea of paths and directories, are a memory aid, serving greatly to reduce the chance of mistakes, and with their appearance foster an environment of affinity.

The BeOS/Haiku icons are an integral part of the OS, they should serve, progress and shine as the underlying codes.