GoBe Productive on Haiku
From the OSnews website: The State of Applications On Haiku
AndrewZ said:
"GOBEProductive - Do I have a quote? No. Have I spoken with GOBE Software and a Sr. Haiku developer? Yes. GP is not open sourced but there is a possibility of a Haiku port. I'm hoping this will inspire some positive discussion and a new efforts here."
koki said:
"In May 2008, when I was still heavily involved with the Haiku project, I had discussions with Bruce Hammond of Gobe Software that lead to a concrete offer from him to give Haiku developers the opportunity to work on a Haiku port of Gobe Productive 3; in exchange for the development work, Bruce committed to make the resulting Haiku binaries available for free.
In response to Bruce's generous offer, several Haiku developers of stature volunteered to work on the port, and they were given access to the code, but for some reason the project never went anywhere. It is kind of disappointing that nothing has materialized after more than two years, but maybe there is still hope.
Yes, I know who the developers were (four, if my memory does not fail), but it's up to them whether they want to come forward or not. You could always ask on one of the Haiku mailing lists.
BTW, there was no money involved whatsoever; the agreement was that the devs would do the work for free and Gobe would release the GP3 binary for Haiku gratis.
I have no idea on the state of the code; that would be another question for the devs, which they may not be able to answer as they were unders NDAs."
What ever became of these discussions?
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Re: GoBe Productive on Haiku
@waddlesplash: are there any news porting calligra office?
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If anyone wants to have a go at fixing that, you can shoot me a PM on here or on IRC and I'll be happy to provide the info necessary to get started.
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To whom it may concern:
It will take far more than my skill level to do anything with this, but the source code for MS Word for Windows 1.1a has been made available for non-commercial purposes.
http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/microsoft-word-for-windows-1-1a-source-code/
I'm afraid that would be a waste of time, considering how out of date it is. If someone is able to port a program, best it be an up to date piece of software, to make it worth their effort.
Dittos to that! I'd rather just use Lyx!
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Dittos to that! I'd rather just use Lyx!
There's an entire codebase to be ripped apart and inspected, and all people can think about is "let's not port the whole thing"? No wonder this community is spinning its wheels going nowhere the way it is ...
Maybe there is still code for spellchecking in there that can be used and adapted. Maybe there is code on how to ... Oh, never mind, let's just keep on having this conversation for another ten years.
Re: GoBe Productive on Haiku
Dittos to that! I'd rather just use Lyx!
There's an entire codebase to be ripped apart and inspected, and all people can think about is "let's not port the whole thing"? No wonder this community is spinning its wheels going nowhere the way it is ...
I dont want to sound rude, but this is ridiculous!
Maybe there is still code for spellchecking in there that can be used and adapted. Maybe there is code on how to ... Oh, never mind, let's just keep on having this conversation for another ten years.
and again i dont want to sound rude, but... Spellchecking from 1991, seriously?
Take a look at www.abiword.org instead (didnt we had a port of this?)
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Dittos to that! I'd rather just use Lyx!
There's an entire codebase to be ripped apart and inspected, and all people can think about is "let's not port the whole thing"? No wonder this community is spinning its wheels going nowhere the way it is ...
Maybe there is still code for spellchecking in there that can be used and adapted. Maybe there is code on how to ... Oh, never mind, let's just keep on having this conversation for another ten years.
I appreciate your zealousness for building stuff for Haiku. All antique software issuses aside (hey - some of the old stuff was pretty good!) - I had a look at the licence on computerhistory.com. Yes - it is non commercial. It also says you may not distribute the software. You have to get it from an MS source, and you may not distribute any derivatives.
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Sorry - it's computerhistory.org. They do give you the right to distribute up to fifty lines for "illustrative purposes" - but fair use would probably give you that anyway.
I don't think MS ever really gives anything away "for nutin"
Re: GoBe Productive on Haiku
(Wow, I registered here once.)
Apologies for the necropost, but I was waxing nostalgic about the good old days with Clarisworks just now. Did anything further become of the Windows port of Gobe? Even if porting to Haiku is a lost cause, it might still be kind of neat to see. I doubt I could find anywhere else online where people might know more about its current status.
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GoBE Productive for Windows was licensed and distributed through a 3rd party, mostly to India. I remember downloading a trial copy some years and several computers ago. Does anyone else have a copy?
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What do ya know? Here is a link to download GP3 for Windows:
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GoBE Productive for Windows was licensed and distributed through a 3rd party, mostly to India.
What makes this thread so intriguing is the suggestion that the developers have retained the rights.
What do ya know? Here is a link to download GP3 for Windows:
Well, it's a 30-day trial and I doubt the registration function still does anything (it appears to pre-date the association with anyone in India), but it's something, I guess, so thanks for pointing that out.
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It's been long time since my latest post, and i wanted to say something about GoBe, but this can be applied to the Refraction thing as well. I think resurrecting a software like gobe productive, is more than an hazard. If the software will be developed closed source, apart from the fact that developing isn't cost-free, there's risk that what happened at Be times, will rehappen again. Just think of a unexpected thing happening and blocking the development. Even if the source code gets open sourced there are a number of factors to consider :
My suggestion is to rethink very well the *real* value of code. This should be seen with a long view on the future, to create an app comparable to MS Word or OpenOffice the investment is inestimable. Do you think the Haiku community have any force to create or develop a product comparable to the ones i mentioned? And we may want to talk about the interface_kit, do you think it's ready enough to support so advanced features itself? Yes, LibreOffice/OpenOffice is big, it needs lots of dependencies, but if you take paper and seriously do an analysis on this, after the sum you'll figure out that resurrecting a thing like GoBe will be fruitless and expensive at the same time. The same apply for Refraction, altough i've doubts on the code quality (basing on what i've seen in BeAE), do you think a $30'000 bounty wouldn't be enough to have a decent port of GTK? No offense to anyone, it's just how i see it, but translators aren't really a good motivation to invest thousands of bucks into a new project, IMHO.