Name Suggestion for native Haiku Web Browser

Forum thread started by philcostin on Fri, 2009-03-13 10:18

I saw recently that some developers had expressed an interest in creating a native web browser for Haiku and it got me thinking about names...

How does NetPoetry or NetPoetic sound?

I'm kind of new to Haiku and BeOS and maybe you guys have some better ideas, (or have already chosen what you would like to call it) - so this is really just a brainstorming thread.

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+1 Surfboard

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No, I meant Saki ;)

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DavieB wrote:

1) Saki - rice wine

DavieB wrote:

No, I meant Saki ;)

What you know as "rice wine" in Japanese is "sake" not "saki".

Anyway, all you guys still suggesting names, don't you know that the name has already been decided and that the browser is called WebPositive?

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Yes I know that. But I like Saki not Sake, I don't care that the spelling is incorrect. For instance the correct spelling of "color" is in fact "colour" and "realize" is in fact "realise". WebPositive sounds like something your doctor would diagnose you as having from too many late nights on line. "I'm sorry but it's bad news, you are WebPositive, and there's nothing we can do..." Why another browser anyway? Why not just stick with the BeZilla one? Is it a Haiku version of NetPositive? If so then I guess it makes sense.

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DavieB wrote:

I don't care that the spelling is incorrect. For instance the correct spelling of "color" is in fact "colour" and "realize" is in fact "realise".

Actually no, it depends on where you live. "color" is correct in the United States, whereas "colour" is correct in Canada and the UK. "realize" is correct the US and Canada. "yogourt" is correct in Canada. And besides, you can't compare English spelling to Japanese. Japanese has a phonetic system, and even changing a single letter changes the pronunciation and, in this case, even the meaning, completely.

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Exactly and where I live Sake is spelled Saki. Actually no it's not ;) but I chose to spell it that way because it uses the ak and i from Haiku. I thought it was pretty cool. Saki, the brewser...

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Well you might as well use Haikyo (Ruin), but that doesn't make it a good name. Choosing a Japanese name while ignoring its meaning will just make you look like a "stupid foreigner", and we have lots of those already.

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The problem here is that this is all subjective. I like the word Saki, as a name. A name can be spelled anyway you like. It has absolutely no meaning. Meaning is context. Firefox doesn't mean anything, it's the name of a browser. If you started using it to describe something else then it's meaning becomes something different again. This is just how language evolves. And why colour is now color and why realize used to be realise and why something described as sick means something is good; at least if you are my teenage son that is. I'm sorry but that's the way it is for me.

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This is all from a European perspective, where names are "just names". This isn't the case in Japan; even personal names are chosen based on meaning. So if you're going to use a Japanese name and even include cultural references, then this doesn't work.

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I have to disagree with you once again, it does work. Words are taken from one language to another all the time. Pig is an old english word for a pig. Pork is the french word for a pig. Why don't we use pig to describe the meat we eat? Because someone somewhere started using pork instead and it caught on and the meaning changed. I took the word Sake "rice wine" changed it's spelling to Saki and voila a new word is now in existance. It has no meaning until people start using it in the context of something else. This is the English language at work. Saki is not a Japanese word anymore, it's English and has no meaning yet. Actually I might start using it as a word to describe something as amazing. Such as, "I had a saki night last night", "That was saki" or "The new broswer for Haiku is saki" etc.

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WebPositive is a native Webkit browser, which is much faster and better intergrated than BeZilla Browser. You should try it yourself ;)

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Ok, I will give it try. Will it be included in the first release?

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DavieB wrote:

Ok, I will give it try. Will it be included in the first release?

WebPositive will be in the second alpha, BeZillaBrowser on the other hand probably will not.

Anyway Have a look at this topic from the mailing list for more info:
http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/R1-Alpha-2-Optional-Pack...

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That makes no sense..

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It doesn't have to make sense. It's a name :)

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wow,all these exotic names,it's gone be hard to choose from.
i've got one myself,how about :WEBFINDER
simple and compelling.

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khallebal wrote:

wow,all these exotic names,it's gone be hard to choose from.
i've got one myself,how about :WEBFINDER
simple and compelling.

Not when Webpositive has been chosen as the name, and Webpositive is amost at the stage where it can be used day-to-day without many crashes or issues

www.haiku-os.org/blog/stippi/2010-04-16_webpositive_gets_bit_more_stable

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I suggest:

Photino

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Name Proposal: Haiku Scout.

In the first instance, I suggest reusing Haiku as a name because it was the browser in BeOS (sp. NetPositive) that originally gave rise to the Haiku name. In other words, I suggest that any new name that breaks with that tradition would represent a loss of culture and tradition.

I suggest Scout (a lightweight mobile human) as a descriptive postfix for no less than 7 core reasons.

  1. We are discussing something that is a tactical extension of Haiku OS and its community. Scouts are tactical.
  2. Good Scouts and good browsers are lightweight.
  3. The browser has mobility in so far as it provides each user's experience of the web landscape.
  4. Scout is an isolated specialist that represents its franchise - as do all web browsers.
  5. Very importantly: Scouts help to locate and expose information and knowledge, which is precisely what users want from their web browser.
  6. NetPositive is iconified by a human in front of the Earth and a Scout is a human with an even stronger case for being associated with the entire Earth.
  7. The project exists due to a community's independent code, it's ideas and vision are the result of independent thinking, and Scouts are somewhat independent too.

In conclusion, Haiku Scout describes clearly the roles, tasks, performance and behaviours of a good hard-working web browser. I hereby humbly submit my suggestion for your serious consideration.

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The above was derived from a brainstorm in which many names were found. However, I felt Scout was both more personifying and more elegant than most others. It's also easy to represent visually.

It is a respectable unclaimed and potential trademark. However, there is one similar name in common use. Explorer and Scout would have to face-up to each other and that's OK.

In terms of naming, Scout beats Explorer. As heroic as explorers have been in the history of mankind, scouts are more often associated with military action and tactical maneuvering. In other words, scouting is more deterministic than exploring! In UK terminology, scouts can be junior to explorers. However, that is also beneficial because junior translates into younger, faster, and (if female) sexier. Finally, scouts report back to their user with regular updates whereas explorers can just disappear.

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WebPossitive is the native broswers name, officially.

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Quite allot cool names for a web-browser.
I liked the kimono idea very much.
Here is my proposal:

katana - slice your way trough the web

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Wasabi sounds like an awesome name for a web browser!

Other suggestions:

PowerPage Plus
WebWalter

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How about 'SAKE' - it helps to connect people, it's short, it's japanese (so it's automagically cool!), many people know the word etc.. ;) "To connect with the world I open up a Sake..."

I think Haiku having too much 'japan' inside is not a good thing. What's the point, where's the connection, really? Is it OS for japanese, made by japanese, what?

'Silk' feels too... fragile.

'Spider' travels the web, so Kumo is kinda ok... but icky.

'H+' 'coz of the NetPositive/Net+ reference, coz it's short and it sticks to ur mind, but it lacks.... charizma?

Travelling, journeys, tranquility (grr... "so i fire up my tran-ki... ee my tranny...") - bo-ring nad cliche...

Surfer seems a bit *too* straight forward at first, but it's kinda cool (as surfers are... ;), easy to remember, has a logic behind it... so +1 from me (de-mo-cra-cy-y-y...)

Having a name that's already used as browser name is other OS, that's kind of... unimaginative.

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+1 for WasaBe and Horizon
I also like "Ginko Browser" but, according to me, just "Ginko" is sufficient.

For a "MSN like" client I suggest :
_ Yatagaratsu ( who is the messenger of the kami ( gods ) in japanese mythology )

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we could even go off the wall and name it turkey and use the surfer icon

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you want something small, but yet strong and powerful?
Something green, like in Haiku's logo's leaves?
Something sounding like World Wide Web but which could compete well with "Mozilla"?

Then I suggest WASABI!

(extra pun with a derived name such as WasaBe)

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I don't have any ideas at the moment. But it should be simple and memorable, in other words, my 60-something mother should be able to remember it after hearing it twice or thrice. For most people, the browser is the most important app in their OS... do think wisely and carefully choose. Maybe a poll for users to have a say before the final decision? A contest with perhaps some free gear for the winner?

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How about 'Sakura' ? Simple, beautiful...

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WebKitty??? Sounds too much like Hello Kitty

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Couldn't think of any new serious suggestions (unserious names would be Bowser, SpiderPig or Intertubez :)) but if it's going to be shipped with Haiku I think I'd prefer some simple non-name like Browser, Surfer, Online or The Web. That would give a clear hint of what the program does (here I go again.. focus on what users want to DO, not HOW they have to instruct the computer).

It's got some disadvantages though. For starters you need a strong, relatively unique and memorable name to build brand. For example if people, like web developers, are talking about different browsers then "Browser" would be too ambiguous. If it wasn't bundled with the OS, or if you ported to other platforms, you'd probably want something that people can actually google for.

Well, now I thought of a suggestion.. If it's based on WebKit it could be named WebKitty (It's the friendly cat that helps you surf the web :)). It appeals to devs that would see the relation to WebKit, and it would make sense to regular users too. I mean, everybody loves lolcats.

Unfortunately google said that there's some kind of webmail program in development named WebKitty already, which might or might not be a problem. WebKitten appears to be less used but I think it sounds less catchy.

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What about "RainDance"?

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It is based on Firefox, isn't it?
So I guess I will call it Firefox

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stefdnk wrote:

It is based on Firefox, isn't it?
So I guess I will call it Firefox

Our Firefox-based browser is called BeZilla (a combination of Be and Mozilla of course.)

This thread is about the new WebKit-based browser I'm working on.

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Hmm, guess someone is in for along read;-) Congratulations on Haiku Alpha. At last something that will give MS a race for their money!

As for the browser name, in my view it would be better to stick to the Haiku direction, rather than turning back to Be/Beos/Dan0 (this without disrespect as they anyway should be given some credit/gratitude for giving the base/direction)
Therefore I think we should not knit on with Netpositive or anything like that but rather stick to somewhat mysterious yet simple names like Haiku.

I'm no expert either on the subject of Haiku or Japanese for that matter but when reading about Haiku and it's meaning there are two names that seem to be related (in a sort of big way):

Kireji and Kigo

Thought they might do well one as a name for the webbrowser and one as a name for the computer-browser.

Just a thought. Keep up the good work!

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I suggest to call it (Internet browser or Internet + other simple word). I think Internet Explorer makes much more sense than a name like Firefox. If someone doesn't know what Firefox is, the name won't give him any hints.

Every one will understand what Internet Browser is.

Staying away from strange names and to just use simple and easy to recognize names is the right way for usability and simplicity in my opinion.

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How about;

Haikruzer

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I'd call it just "poetic" simple and powerful like the OS.

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+1 splash
+1 Surfboard
+1 Horizon

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+1 Serenity

+1 Hawaii

+1 NetPoetic

Although I would always shorten NetPoetic to Netic. It has connotations to 'kinetic' and (to a lesser degree) 'connect'.

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Taiko would be a great name for a messaging app

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tigerdog wrote:

Taiko would be a great name for a messaging app

Having recently watched a Taiko drum performance I'd rather think that name would be better for a drum or music app :)

As for this never ending thread, I do think a lot of the ideas are pretty good. I have continued to brainstorm myself and my current favorite idea actually came from my (non technical) girlfriend. It hasn't been mentioned here yet, as far as I can see. So in other words Tranquility is pretty much out, but I'm keeping this new idea to myself for now ;)

For those who don't know, I'm the one writing this new browser so at the end of the day I'll be deciding the name. But even though I may not use the ideas here, I do think this thread has become a gold mine of names for many other apps!

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I sorta lean towards Spanish names; they sound so cool with cars, etc. The Spanish word "Tela" means "web" in English, "rama" (branch), "camino" (road or way), "rio" (river), "tierra" (earth), "porta" (portal),"mundo (world). Maybe "Tela-something" like TelaPorta ("web portal"),or TelaPort (combo of Spanish and English and a play on the English word "teleport" which means obviously jumping from one place to another), TelaNet, TelaMundo ("web world"), TelaRama ("web branch").

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I personally like Horizon. It sounds nice, melds nicely with Haiku. And it connotes a space away from where you are.

bill

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I didn't read all the comment, but here's my suggestion:

Ginko Browser

Ginko is a Haiku-related word that means "A walk outside to observe nature and write haiku" that could mean: "Going to surf the web to observe all the net and enjoy it"

Ginko Browser

+1 for Ginko Browser!

Excellent suggestion! Ginko is also a species of tree with a very unique leaf (biradial veins instead of branching) so it ties into the "leaf menu" and Haiku logo leaf theme. Plus, Ginko is thought to improve memory. I don't know about you, but the older I get, the more the web substitutes for a working memory. Multiple meanings are more fun. :)

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"Haveler" or "Haler"
A portmanteau of Haiku's Traveler.

Since the OS name is Haiku, I thought it's interesting to have a play of words for its browser name.

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+1 for Verse

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my favorites are

kumo
Hawaii

and here is my suggestion

すづくり [suzukuri] - meaning: building a web

PS: can you guys put a poll it would be helpful!

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Actually I do not want this discussion to be a 'bikeshed' discussion so I did not submit any suggestion recently, and would not.
However, today my wife suggested a name so I post it here. (actually, I was forced to :) )

How about 'Andromeda'?
It is well known to many people over the world, and sounds pretty, and gives us feeling of exploration (of course not 'sea' but 'the space'). If the name does not imply it is a web browser, than you may call it 'Andromeda Browser'.

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The best name for a native Haiku Browser would be...
Browser.

I know it breaks the nice Net.../Web... naming-scheme and it has no reference to Haiku/BeOS, but:
Most of the names that have been dropped here have little to no meaning to a user that is completely
new to Haiku.

Today, the Browser is one of the most important tools on a computer. A user should not
have to thin about or event to search for it.

Furthermore, Browser - in it's humble simplicity - stands for everything Haiku stands for: Clarity, simplicity - serenity.

The name Browser for - well, the browser - makes you (at least it makes me) feel like there is absolutely no doubt about what you can expect when you click the icon/menu entry the first time: A streamlined, efficient tool to browse the web that does not get in your way and let's you do the job.

What do you think?