Renaming BeMail
Quote:
BeMail(TM), Tracker(TM), Be(R), BeOS(R), and BeIA(TM) are trademarks or registered trademarks
of Be Incorporated in the United States and other countries. Other brand product
names are registered trademarks or trademarks of their respective holders.
All rights reserved.
Looks like you guys are going to have to give BeMail a new name.
Any ideas yet? Probably makes a lot of sense to do it before you start distributing betas and such.
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Renaming BeMail
What about:
HaikuMail
HaikuTracker
Haiku
Or perhaps something else related to Haiku in terms of meaning. Perhaps another language, Italian || Latin || Greek ... Icelandic, Old Norse (to please me) :wink:
Re: Renaming BeMail
As far as the US trademarks.
I went to http://www.uspto.gov/ and it doesn't appear to be registered.
BeOS is still listed to Palm and listed as dead March 19, 2005.
BeIA is still listed to Be Inc and listed as dead August 22, 2002.
Be and it's logo is registered with Unicity Properties as live.
There are several trademarks on "Tracker", didn't have the patience
to find the one for the BeOS Tracker.
There is no trademark listed for BeMail.
Don't know about other countries though.
Curtis
Re: Renaming BeMail
Correction - the BeOS entry for Be Inc is listed as dead March 19, 2005
There is a live entry for BeOS by Palm.
Sorry.
Curtis
Renaming BeMail
HaikuMail is very OK and pretty obvious if you ask me, but if we have to rename Tracker and/or Deskbar, then that will be just plain sad.
How can anyone copyprotect a word like "Tracker"? To me its like if Apple would copyprotect the color white!
Renaming BeMail
Disclaimer - I'm not a legal expert, but
A trademark is a word, phrase, term, etc. to identify a particular product or service. You can not use that trademark if you have a similar product or service to that particular use of the trademark. The common word Tracker on its own is not trademarked.
For example, for "Tracker" there is a trademark for "Computer software for monitoring patient flow through a medical facility". The term is also trademarked for "Power operated mobility lifts for loading and transport of powered personal mobility vehicles". Since the two products are no where close to each other, this isn't a conflict. I haven't been able to identify a trademark to the software in BeOS.
The word "Be" itself isn't a trademark, but Unicity has the name and logo trademarked for providing facial cleansers, etc. Whether someone else could use the name for another trademark depends on how it would impact this company.
In general, it is best to avoid using an existing trademarked term to describe a product just to avoid any issues. However, if it's used to identify something that clearly can not be confused with another current product or service, then it shouldn't be an issue.
Trademarks don't necessarily have to be registered, which you could argue is the case with BeMail. However, since some of Be's other trademarks have been abandoned (ie. BeIA), you could easily argue it was abandoned for BeMail.
I hope I explained that right, I'm sure I'll find out if I didn't.
After all that, I would just say to call it HaikuMail. :wink:
Curtis
Well
Well... Windows is trademarked...
in spanish
Tracker = Rastreador :P
Re: Renaming BeMail
BeMail and Tracker were NOT trademarks, despite Be's claims - they never even applied for them. Done trademark searches in the US, UK, Ireland and the EU Community Marks DB, and they're not trademarks. Believe me.
In addition, with the exception of the US and UK TM's on the name "BeOS", Be own the TM's, not Palm.
Renaming BeMail
we're using OpenTracker anyway aren't we ?
I believe so....
but please don't ruin this meaningless but funny hunt on new names ;)
Renaming BeMail
In spite of any potential trademark issues, the fact remains that "BeMail" as a name is sort of - well - obsolete. :)
Perhaps just "Mail" or something like "Post Office"?
Renaming BeMail
Also, has "Haiku" been trademarked yet?
Re: I believe so....
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Renaming BeMail
Somehow having Be prefixed application names in Haiku sounds wrong, even if it were possible to use them. Although Haiku owns everything to Be and BeOS, it's not the same thing. HaikuMail, on the other hand, sounds dull and boring. I kind of like the name Post Office. It has the ring of that weird, Be-like humour.
Or how about Mailbag?
Wordnet defines tracker as:
tracker n : someone who tracks down gameSo... You could rename Tracker to Hunter. Don't we already have RobinHood? :)
Renaming BeMail
Yes, i think it's better for a long life of apps to give them names like :
calculator
web browser
mail client
etc....
Also renaming existings apps is a good idea like in "Xandros linux".
Firefox become simply "web browser" etc....
Renaming BeMail
I think its a good idea , so one can actually use a _mail_ application to send _mail_ to someone and doesn't have to remember what's the _mail_ application name is and instad actualy _mail_ something.
Renaming BeMail
...and so one doesn't have to remember what the _OS_ name is.
Renaming BeMail
BeMail could be called Thunderbird :D
Renaming BeMail
I called my chair Thunderbird and my left shoe firefox. I hope they could fly :D
Renaming BeMail
I would probably recommend completing the integration of the mail_server into Haiku by eliminating naming it altogether - the title bar for a new e-mail would read something obvious like "New Mail".
The advantage this position offers is that other services could be integrated in a similar fashion - think IM Kit.
Renaming BeMail
The app in the Be Menu, erm, Haiku Menu and indeed in the filesystem still needs a name, though...
Renaming BeMail
The item in the Be^H^HHaiku Menu would be replaced by rightclicking the mailbox icon in the Deskbar and clicking New Message as is currently done. In the filesystem it's just called mail_server, as I recall.
Renaming BeMail
mail_daemon
Not having a menu entry is extremely counter intuitive though.