Running Haiku

Forum thread started by eav on Wed, 2004-06-23 15:23

I see the download for BeOS on the Haiku site, but not one for Haiku itself. How close is Haiku to being available?

Ed

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For a complete ISO I'd say not *that* close, but bits and pieces of the OS are already available in i.e BeBits.

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For joking i would say that the current version of BeOS that use the most of Haiku/OpenBeOS things is Zeta :D

But well ... you have to wait a bit more ...

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Just for HA-HAs, at some point I decide to build a straight Haiku-based platform, what would you folks think the best (supported) hardware for it would be? That is, where are you headed? Standard ATX motherboard? Western Digital drives? Canon printer? CD and DVD brands? Just wondering if anyone's thought seriously about this. My main problem with Linux is it STILL doesn't support most new hardware till a year later. I'd like to see this obviously multimedia computer focus on a select line of the best multimedia components. This would have to go a long way toward a truly BELIEVABLE OS.

Any comments appreciated.

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stfranklin wrote:
Just for HA-HAs, at some point I decide to build a straight Haiku-based platform, what would you folks think the best (supported) hardware for it would be? That is, where are you headed? Standard ATX motherboard? Western Digital drives? Canon printer? CD and DVD brands? Just wondering if anyone's thought seriously about this. My main problem with Linux is it STILL doesn't support most new hardware till a year later. I'd like to see this obviously multimedia computer focus on a select line of the best multimedia components. This would have to go a long way toward a truly BELIEVABLE OS.

Any comments appreciated.

I doubt you'll have any problems with hard drive brands or CD/DVD brands, the interfaces for these are all pretty generic now, it's really the controller (usually part of the motherboard chipset) that you may need to worry about.

I think video cards, sounds cards, and network cards are a good place to pay attention... and of course the motherboard chipset (best stay away from SiS - they're extremely difficult to find good driver support for, and frankly they just suck)

For video card support, I would say you're safe with most Nvidia, Matrox, or ATI chipsets at this point... Haiku, and the community have good recent driver support for these cards.

I'm not entirely sure what the status is on sound cards/chipsets.. or network card drivers in the Haiku repository.

For printers, you're best bet appears to be any PCL5 compatible printer (or PCL6 if you only need monochrome printing). Also there is a Postscript driver in the repository. Unfortunately, I am not sure what printers are PCL5/6 compatible.

That's about all the help I can be at this point...someone else can probably fill in more details.

CPU's

for the best BeOS (and related versions), i suggest a cpu w/ < 2.000GhZ
even though there is a cpu_fix patch, it is not guaranteed to work on every system.

here's a link to help decipher AMD's wacky naming scheme.
http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/748956~9de9cf148f68c8887d988d3d467f8c05/cpu_table_amd_big.gif

here's a link that about Intel's chip and how much power they consume
(and therefore an indication of how much heat is released)
http://cpuheat.wz.cz/html/IntelPowerConsumption.htm

some of the newer LGA775 1MB Prescott's can consume 150watts!

max 768mb ram is also another good guideline.
i *think* the max may be lower depending on your graphics card, never fully understood how it related.

btw, if you can go dual cpu :D

Re: CPU's

mmadia wrote:
for the best BeOS (and related versions), i suggest a cpu w/ < 2.000GhZ
even though there is a cpu_fix patch, it is not guaranteed to work on every system.

here's a link to help decipher AMD's wacky naming scheme.
http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/748956~9de9cf148f68c8887d988d3d467f8c05/cpu_table_amd_big.gif

here's a link that about Intel's chip and how much power they consume
(and therefore an indication of how much heat is released)
http://cpuheat.wz.cz/html/IntelPowerConsumption.htm

some of the newer LGA775 1MB Prescott's can consume 150watts!

max 768mb ram is also another good guideline.
i *think* the max may be lower depending on your graphics card, never fully understood how it related.

btw, if you can go dual cpu :D

Although, I woudl guess that Haiku will be removing some of these "limitations" - if he truly intends to build a Haiku-friendly machine (for the R1 release of Haiku), I would expect the processor speed/type will no longer be an issue, and hopefully a full 1GB RAM will at least be supported without issues.

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umccullough wrote:

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Although, I woudl guess that Haiku will be removing some of these "limitations" - if he truly intends to build a Haiku-friendly machine (for the R1 release of Haiku), I would expect the processor speed/type will no longer be an issue, and hopefully a full 1GB RAM will at least be supported without issues.

May be he should wait until Haiku R1 is available (whenever this will be), because he will certainly get better hardware for his money. :wink:

Thomas

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umccullough wrote:
For printers, you're best bet appears to be any PCL5 compatible printer (or PCL6 if you only need monochrome printing). Also there is a Postscript driver in the repository. Unfortunately, I am not sure what printers are PCL5/6 compatible.

Other way around. PCL6 for colour, PCL5 for b/w.

Almost all printers that cost real money (e.g. are not 29 dollar specials subsidised by the carts) support PCL6. My colour HP deskjet only supports PCL5 and PCL3C though, so for colour I need Binkjet. My laser is b/w but is PCL6.....

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Thanks for the information. Now I have something to start thinking about.

I am always "serious." It's my timeline that sometimes gets a little mythological ;-). The point is, I know at some point I will want to build another box, and I just can't stomach spending money on another Winders changed-but-not-much-improved "upgrade."

Thanks again.

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MYOB wrote:
umccullough wrote:
For printers, you're best bet appears to be any PCL5 compatible printer (or PCL6 if you only need monochrome printing). Also there is a Postscript driver in the repository. Unfortunately, I am not sure what printers are PCL5/6 compatible.

Other way around. PCL6 for colour, PCL5 for b/w.

Almost all printers that cost real money (e.g. are not 29 dollar specials subsidised by the carts) support PCL6. My colour HP deskjet only supports PCL5 and PCL3C though, so for colour I need Binkjet. My laser is b/w but is PCL6.....

Whoops, then someone needs to reverse the notes at:

http://haiku-os.org/contribute.php?mode=team_view_task&id=340

and

http://haiku-os.org/contribute.php?mode=team_view_task&id=349