What apps do you need on Haiku?

Forum thread started by kurtis on Sat, 2012-06-23 20:33

Hey Guys and Girls,

I'm just trying to get an idea on what apps people need on Haiku. Feel free to include ideas such as applications from other platforms (e.g. Firefox), or just general application types (e.g. Spreadsheet Program). Also, if there's an application on Haiku that just needs updated because it no longer runs or is missing feature X, then that would be a great addition as well.

If possible, let's keep the discussion to a minimal in this thread and treat it more like a list. External links and little notes at the end of your posts are welcome. Please try to stick to one post per user. If you need to modify your list then simply edit that post.

Keep in mind: The point behind this is to allow potential-developers to have a quick list they can run through, evaluate what people want, and can use this knowledge to build applications that will be more beneficial for the community. I don't have any idea on what most people use Haiku for so choosing an application that would be well worth the time is a guessing-game at best.

Thanks!

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My List:

  1. Emacs
  2. HTML5 Browser
  3. Official Package Manager

Notes:

  1. Emacs has been ported by augiedoggie but he mentioned it was an older release
  2. Work has already been started on porting webkit by aldeck
  3. There's some various methods of currently distributing packages. From this developer's mailing list thread, it appears there's some work to be done in this area, still. I'd like to see a decision made on how Haiku, from a central aspect, plans on handling package management and get this system (even if it's crude) implemented.

Comments

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

If anyone wants to increase the chance of their favourite software being ported to Haiku, then they should add it the Haiku Ports website.

Here you can see a ticket for the VideoLAN Movie Creator http://ports.haiku-files.org/ticket/281

And here is a ticket for open source BeOS software Globe Webeditor http://ports.haiku-files.org/ticket/602

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

My list:
1) Word processing with rtf, odf, doc and docx format support
2) Win32 compatability system(Wine, Peace, WinBe etc)
3) HTML5 browser with Haiku integration: Tabs with StackAndTile, support BView add-ons, MediaKit integration, web browser as BView with API and replicant.
If driver requests is allowed then:
4) Working HDA driver. Current HDA driver work only on my old machine, on my main machine and Acer W500 tablet it don't produce sound at all.
5) Power save drivers; Suspend to RAM

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

hi

1) Samba ... suport for SMB/CIF , client for browse a windows network
2) Intel HDA sound driver / Azalia.. this HD audio is in all new mainboards and support in Haiku is not good. i have this sound card .. and i hear only very corrupted sound,
3) support for USB serial programing and port utilities like avra, avrdude, cross-avr-gcc to haiku for programing atmel microcontrolers.. maybe other platforms like PIC or ARM devel tools port too.
4) port of newest verion of Firefox will be good :D

when you want office tools, there are web office apliacations.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

1. Package Manager, atleast an automatic system update function.

2. Inkscape, I use it almost exclusively to make graphics for a couple of indie game projects I'm working on. For the stuff I do in Gimp and MyPaint chances are Wonderbrush would do the job.

3. Modern/HTML5 capable browser, as much as I like the idea of a native browser a la WebPositive I feel that web/browser technology is advancing much too fast for any spare-time project to be able to keep up with what is expected of a fully featured browser. Also given that the web is increasingly becoming platform-agnostic (flash begone!!) all it takes is a port of Chrome/Firefox to make Haiku into something like a first class citizen on the web.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

1 - A modern browser with full support to HTML5, password manager, adblock filter, etc.. And most important: with the most recent release of WebKit (at the moment r121115)!

2 - Samba (integrated inside Tracker) for network sharing.

3 - A word processor, something like Calligra or Abiword.

4 - R1 release of Haiku :-)

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Hello everyone,
I follow the Haiku project for about two months, if I say nonsense, forgive me.

I totally agree with X512

Something like Scrivener[1] or Nisus Writer Pro[2] would be great!
There is no open source software with these features (A multi platform project might attract developers?).

Two questions.
- You can use (and improve) existing software to assemble a word processor or a wysiwyg editor?
http://superuser.com/questions/209897/text-formatter-tools

- Use an emulator for Flash and Silverlight with a Browser you can?
Or are necessary alternatives:
http://phys.org/news/2012-06-mozilla-shumway-off-ramp.html

I apologize for my English.

[1] http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php
Tutorial Videos http://www.literatureandlatte.com/video.php
[2] http://nisus.com/pro/

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

1. A browser with a decent ad-blocker, or a plug-in architecture that supports one, and better support for keyboard shortcuts (configurable if possible.)
2. A solid multi-track audio editor.
3. A solid multi-layer image editor.
4. WINE.
5. A graphical WPA client.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Decent browser and a torrent app for me. If there was a decent browser video driver and usb wireless drivers id use haiku as my daily OS

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

commodorejohn wrote:

1. A browser with a decent ad-blocker

QupZilla http://haikuware.com/directory/view-details/development/app-installation...
has a good ad-blocker filter.

xsive wrote:

Decent browser and a torrent app

You can also try QupZilla.
On my Haiku installation i use QBittorrent, for torrent files. Works quite well!

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

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From a developers perspective, the Cortex approach is really nice. A good toolset for developing components or "Media Add-ons", as Cortex calls them. Nice "plug-in" platform there.

This just could be the OOP programmers ultimate target OS at least. Won't take much to be the best host system too.

Congrats to the developers/maintainers of this sweet little OS.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

QupZilla sounds good, but where can I get Qt and QtWebkit?

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Cool that's two sorted...just video driver for newer nvida seems long way off

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

commodorejohn wrote:

QupZilla sounds good, but where can I get Qt and QtWebkit?

Qt (did you mean libs?) from here: http://poorcoding.com/art/pub/haiku/Qt4Haiku_4.8.0_27Mar2012_min.zip

QtWebkit is included within QupZilla. But if you have coding skills you can port a newer version :-) http://qt-project.org/wiki/QtWebKit for building/improve QupZilla!

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

X512 wrote:

3) HTML5 browser with Haiku integration: Tabs with StackAndTile

Wait, hold on...

So, you mean, by clicking the "New Tab" button in WebPositive it would load an entire new Window and attach it to the original as a stack-and-tile "tab"?

That...

WOULD BE...

AWESOME! :O

Would something like that be possible with the current stack-and-tile API?

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

That would be a neat feature, but not as a replacement for normal tabbed browsing. I remember all too well what it was like alt-tabbing through twenty different Internet Explorer windows back in the day...

Adding the ability to drag a tab off the tab bar and split it into a stack-and-tile window, though, that would be pretty neat.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

How about, we make so that alt-tab or ctrl-tab, whatever is going to be default, switches through all apps. The other one would only switch through apps in a group. This way, WebPositive wouldn't need an extra tab bar, or even a app-specific way to switch tabs, Haiku would do it.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

kidd106 wrote:

How about, we make so that alt-tab or ctrl-tab, whatever is going to be default, switches through all apps. The other one would only switch through apps in a group. This way, WebPositive wouldn't need an extra tab bar, or even a app-specific way to switch tabs, Haiku would do it.

Right now Ctrl-` (the key above Tab in a standard US qwerty keyboard layout) switches between windows of the same application. That would become Cmd (Alt)-` when I get around to switching the default application switching key. Ctrl-Tab and Ctrl-` would then be reserved for application use. Ctrl-Tab and Ctrl-Shift-Tab could then be used in WebPositive to change "tabs" (aka windows) like in most tabbed browsers on other platforms.

I've thought long and hard about the idea of a stack and tile browser, and I think it is worth experimenting with. There is an API for creating and manipulating stack-and-tiled windows, so it should be possible to do this. The one thing I would want to add would be support for icons in the window decorator, to show site favicons. Though I'm not sure how good this would look in the default decorator. Again we would just need to experiment and see. But right now my personal priority is working on things to help get alpha4 out (and then I may also manage the release process.)

As for all the app ideas and suggestions, I think they are great, keep them coming!

Regarding the various requests for an HTML5 browser, we are doing our best to make that happen! The contract project to update our WebKit port by Alexandre Deckner is going very well, and it looks like he wants to do another month. After I finish some alpha4 related stuff I want to get back into work on WebPositive to make it a really nice browser. Things I want to add:

  • Better history API, with press and hold history menus on the forward and back buttons.
  • A combined stop and reload button.
  • Session management like the latest Firefox, where the tab icon and title are restored, but the tab is not loaded until it is clicked. After using it I much prefer this to Chrome's "load all the tabs at once when starting" method.
  • Password saving using the soon to be added Haiku BKeyStore API.
  • Improved address box with the combined best features of Chrome, Firefox and other browsers.
  • Search provider configuration, i.e. no more hard-coded Google.
  • Media Kit integration to support HTML5 audio and video, with likely much of the same code used for the MediaPlayer, so that media experiences on Haiku are very consistent.
  • Support for the WebKit inspector.
  • Userscript support, with compatibility with Greasemonkey and other user script APIs.
  • Make use of the native HTTP libraries (after they get more work) instead of the very slow Curl.
  • Research into maybe using the V8 JavaScript engine from Chrome.
  • Ad blocking.
  • SSB (Single Site Browser) support like the Mac OS X Fluid application.

Not necessarily in that order :)

Of course Alexandre or other developers may help on some of the above, depending on their own motivations.

Yes we are a small team compared to the reems of developers working for Google, Apple, Microsoft, or Mozilla, but we also have the advantage of only having to worry about one platform, so we can more easily take advantage of what Haiku has to offer. Also if Haiku needs to be improved to support a nice browser feature, we can do that (such as my idea to add icons to window decorators.)

Regards,
Ryan Leavengood

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

I think the apps that should be included with Haiku are similar in vein to what comes with other operating systems (Windows, Mac OS and Linux) out of the box. I think Haiku meets most of that expectation (from what I have seen), but is probably missing some crucial apps that some users expect to already be there (out of the box).

It would be interesting to see a comparison list of the BIG 3 (Windows, Mac OS and Linux) of apps that come out of the box. I know for Linux it depends on the distro, but Ubuntu could probably be representative of the norm.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

leavengood wrote:

Yes we are a small team compared to the reems of developers working for Google, Apple, Microsoft, or Mozilla, but we also have the advantage of only having to worry about one platform, so we can more easily take advantage of what Haiku has to offer.

To be clear, I REALLY do prefer a native webbrowser. And what you describe with utilizing the Media Kit both in Webpositive and Mediaplayer (and any other Haiku app needing media functionality) to provide audio/video pretty much defines the 'component integration' which makes Haiku such an attractive desktop system for me.

My pessimism again comes down to the huge task of keeping an up-to-date webbrowser with the extremely small amount of available manpower. However if you guys can beat the odds and provide atleast a lion's share of the features you mentioned I swear I will not utter another word regarding a port of Chrome or Firefox :)

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

leavengood wrote:

Right now Ctrl-` (the key above Tab in a standard US qwerty keyboard layout) switches between windows of the same application. That would become Cmd (Alt)-` when I get around to switching the default application switching key. Ctrl-Tab and Ctrl-` would then be reserved for application use. Ctrl-Tab and Ctrl-Shift-Tab could then be used in WebPositive to change "tabs" (aka windows) like in most tabbed browsers on other platforms.

This would be very nice; the lack of Ctrl-Tab in WebPositive is basically what I was referring to with regards to keyboard support.

Quote:
  • Better history API, with press and hold history menus on the forward and back buttons.
  • Improved address box with the combined best features of Chrome, Firefox and other browsers.

I would like to ask that, if you go adding functionality to the URL bar, you make it optional. As can be told by the existence of Firefox plugins like Old Location Bar, some of us would just like a simple, undecorated list of previous URLs and page titles and nothing more. I won't begrudge anyone their shiny new toys, I'd just like to be able to opt-out :)

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

commodorejohn wrote:

2. A solid multi-track audio editor.

Chaotic (which is Juce-based) or Ardour would be great.
...of course with proper multitrack audio-card drivers...

An NLE would be great too (or, as Sony Vegas, a combination DAW/NLE), IMHO.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

I'd also like to see VirtualBox on Haiku http://www.osnews.com/story/25665/Oracle_working_on_Haiku_port_of_Virtua...

And an image manipulation/editing software!
But for this software i'm hope in a fully working version of OpenJDK porting.. For now i can launch some Java apps, and most of these, partially.. Look this screenshot:
http://s18.postimage.org/ksu565iux/Java_Image_Editor.png

This is the app: http://www.jhlabs.com/ie/index.html

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Giova84 wrote:

And an image manipulation/editing software!

I feel kind of stupid asking an obvious question but, you mean something other than WonderBrush?

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Yes: i mean something other than WonderBrush. WonderBrush is most a "graphical" app. I mean something similar to Gimp, for photo retouching.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Giova84 wrote:

Yes: i mean something other than WonderBrush. WonderBrush is most a "graphical" app. I mean something similar to Gimp, for photo retouching.

I agree, if by "similar to Gimp" we mean "similar to Photoshop, or like Gimp with a usable interface."

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Oh, and if we're putting together a dream list for WebPositive, I would like to emphatically add "Javascript whitelist." Mainly because I'm a little baffled that QupZilla doesn't include a NoScript-like feature and doesn't seem to support Firefox plugins so I can add it myself.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Giova84 wrote:

Yes: i mean something other than WonderBrush. WonderBrush is most a "graphical" app. I mean something similar to Gimp, for photo retouching.

The BeOS image editor ArtPaint is open source and on OSDrawer. Though I'm inclined to see it moved somewhere nicer than OSDrawer. My apologies to any OSDrawer people who read this, but in my experience it has always sucked. Right now it isn't even showing the pages with CSS.

Anyhow, it would likely be much less work to fix up ArtPaint than to try to port Gimp and the many, many other things it likely requires (GTK+ being one of the huge ones.) And if you can run a Java image editor with the OpenJDK work, great, but I'm inclined to think a native solution will always be better.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

I know it's not an application per se, but FFADO and some sort of JACK integration would be really appreciated.
Also more audio editing applications and MIDI sequencers would really bring more support to this platform I feel.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

leavengood wrote:

The BeOS image editor ArtPaint is open source and on OSDrawer. Though I'm inclined to see it moved somewhere nicer than OSDrawer. My apologies to any OSDrawer people who read this, but in my experience it has always sucked. Right now it isn't even showing the pages with CSS.

Anyhow, it would likely be much less work to fix up ArtPaint than to try to port Gimp and the many, many other things it likely requires (GTK+ being one of the huge ones.) And if you can run a Java image editor with the OpenJDK work, great, but I'm inclined to think a native solution will always be better.

First of all: i didn't know that ArtPaint is Opensource.

Yes: i use (sometimes) ArtPaint, but has some missing or incomplete features (eg: selector tool doesn't work).
In the meanwhile (when OpenJDK port will be complete) i can use Java Image Editor while i'm waiting for a better and maybe native application :-)
And improve ArtPaint would be sure better, than to try to port Gimp, as you've said! I'm agree.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Giova84 wrote:

Yes: i use (sometimes) ArtPaint, but has some missing or incomplete features (eg: selector tool doesn't work).
In the meanwhile (when OpenJDK port will be complete) i can use Java Image Editor while i'm waiting for a better and maybe native application :-)
And improve ArtPaint would be sure better, than to try to port Gimp, as you've said! I'm agree.

What is funny is that to me the Java Image Editor looks very much like ArtPaint. Though I personally really hate the multiple different windows design they both have and would likely want to change that in ArtPaint.

Speaking of that, I would personally love to fix up ArtPaint (and many other old BeOS apps which have been open sourced), but of course I don't have the time to do all that I would like to do. And I'm probably not alone in that among Haiku developers. I think the best thing we can do right now is keep working on Haiku, make it as good as we can and get R1 out so that hopefully other developers can be drawn in. Those new developers can then either clean up and improve applications like ArtPaint or write new ones.

But if anyone wants to get into Haiku development, resurrecting and cleaning up old BeOS applications for Haiku would be a great way to start. There are a lot of nice options there.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

My list would be:
1. A complete gcc 4 package, able to compile all languages like fortran, objective-C, etc...
2. Octave, A fantastic math package, mostly compatible with matlab.
3. Texlive (latex), Latex composer
4. TexShop., GUI over latex
5. LatexIt., nice GUI for slide oriented formula compositing (over latex)

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

leavengood wrote:

But if anyone wants to get into Haiku development, resurrecting and cleaning up old BeOS applications for Haiku would be a great way to start. There are a lot of nice options there.

I too didn't know ArtPaint is open source.

I think there needs to be a list of "full featured open source BeOS applications" with source code hosted on an easy to access site for contributors to dive in to. I think the ones I know about so far are ArtPaint and Sawteeth. Where would be a good place for such a list? On Haikuware?

...And since someone brought up OSDrawer, I'd like to complain about it too. I don't know what the relationship is between the Haiku developers and OSDrawer. I don't really mind that the website has always been slow and clunky for me, but now I don't even have access to my own project there. So, I now use Sourceforge like I do for my other (non-Haiku) projects.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

This is excellent news!

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

mtit wrote:

My list would be:
3. Texlive (latex), Latex composer
4. TexShop., GUI over latex

Not quite TexShop, but BeTeX + texlive may do it and is available - sort of:
http://pulkomandy.lexinfo.fr/~texlive/

Regarding Octave, did you tried the BeOS one (search octave on haikuware.com)?
Alas, in order to port a newer one, one will need first a fortran compiler, which we don't have yet.

There is also a GNU Plots available somewhere, again from BeOS era. May still works, though.

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

  1. apps that handle dial up networking.
  2. simple but powerfull image manipulation program like Paint.NET
  3. maybe desktop blogging app

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

I'd like to see these apps being created/updated/bugfixed and continuously improved:

  • Audio editor: e.g. ColdCut (saving crashes the app...)
  • Video editor: e.g. Clockwerk (-> "installoptionalpackage clockwerk")
  • Graphics editor: WonderBrush (included in Haiku images)
  • Tool: PecoRename (drawing fixes, bugfixes)
  • Tool: ArmyKnife (support for cover images in id3)
  • Tool: ClipUp (seems to crash Deskbar at times, GUI should be fixed to fit Haiku)
  • Tool: e.g. BeScreenCapture (or something like it to record the screen for video tutorials)

Regards,
Humdinger

Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

Humdinger wrote:

I'd like to see these apps being created/updated/bugfixed and continuously improved:

  • Audio editor: e.g. ColdCut (saving crashes the app...)

...what about BeAE instead ?

Humdinger wrote:
  • Video editor: e.g. Clockwerk (-> "installoptionalpackage clockwerk")
  • uhmmmm....

    HyperEngine-AV *was* great too, but the way to go is to port a platform-indipendent library like Juce, IMHO.

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    Humdinger wrote:

    Tool: ClipUp (seems to crash Deskbar at times, GUI should be fixed to fit Haiku)

    For what it is worth that is on my list of apps to update, but it likely won't happen anytime soon. But sometimes doing simple things like cleaning up older applications like that is a nice change of pace from harder Haiku work. Now that I'm using a Mac for work I'm getting ideas for other little apps and utilities for Haiku too.

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    Some are already mentioned above

    - Videolan/VLC or similar players (newest versions)

    - Mainstream Browser with HTML5 support, Adblock etc. (Firefox or WebKit-based)

    - 3D drivers/capabilities for multimedia and games. Other OS with a smaller audience have started to sponsor drivers. eg. AmigaOS and Radeon drivers:

    http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2012-06-00073-DE.html

    (Link in German)

    Could there be another funding project for 3D drivers on Haiku? Or this already ongoing? I found these links

    http://haikuware.com/20111221608/gallium-3d-bounty-accepted

    http://haikuware.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=320&It...

    Longer term, people could start writing 3D games and multimedia on Haiku, that would be great. To me, this was the strength of BeOS for endusers - great multimedia capabilities and responsivness.

    I know that this is some time off, but one can dream...

    PS: I'm sure people would sponsor for 3D/multimedia development if needed.

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    Hi,

    full agree with the applications Humdinger mentioned. Especially ClipUp is a useful little tool.
    I'd extend the List to the following:

    • (a working) BeTeX/TeX package
    • (updated versions of) nmap, PortSentry, SnortMonitor
    • (a working) vnc client
    • (an optimised/updated) rdp client
    • LockWorkstation [!]
    • Refraction
    • goBe productive

    As mature BeOS users can see, the applications are available yet, but a little bit outdated or do not work on HAIKU atm.
    A few comments on this:

    As i'm doing a lot of network stuff here i could need a working and stable vnc viewer, the one available starts one time and crashes, the second start goes directly into the debugger (and so on).

    The rdesktop application works good, but i discover a problem which let me go crazy: i can't force german keymap via following command:

    rdesktop -g 1680x1050 -k de -u username hostname

    because HAIKU rdesktop does not contain the -k Parameter, i get the us/en keymap layout, and that's annoying when i have to type in passwords for the remote machine which contains special chars and/or german Umlauts.

    Well, and LockWorkstation (or an equal tool) is needed here, because i am not the only employee in this office, so a recompile or fixed build is very appreciated ;-)

    I know that in case of goBe productive and Refraction the chances are not given but i hope dreaming is allowed ;-)

    Anyway, the developers of HAIKU itself are doing a great job and so every byte is welcome!
    Thank you again, devs!

    prOSy

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    Humdinger wrote:
  • Tool: ClipUp (seems to crash Deskbar at times, GUI should be fixed to fit Haiku)
  • Did you have tried TextBank? http://haikuware.com/directory/view-details/utilities/desktop-accessorie...
    Works like ClipUp.

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    zipster wrote:

    Some are already mentioned above
    Videolan/VLC or similar players (newest versions)

    Haiku's MediaPlayer works very well! :-) Can reproduce many audio and video formats.
    And if you want to play an url, the current version of VLC can do it.

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    prOSy wrote:

    Hi,

  • (a working) vnc client
  • I'm using VNC client on Haiku since two years and works without problem:
    http://haikuware.com/directory/view-details/internet-network/remote-acce...

    http://s16.postimage.org/ui02maox1/Vnc_Haiku.png

    If it crash is due by config file.
    I'm starting VNC using this simple script:

    #!/bin/sh
     
    rm /boot/home/config/settings/vnc.viewersettings
    cd /boot/apps/VNCViewer
    VNCViewer.net_server

    prOSy wrote:
  • LockWorkstation [!]
  • BeLogin can act also as LockWorkstation:
    http://haikuware.com/directory/view-details/utilities/miscellaneous/belogin

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    Giova84 wrote:

    Did you have tried TextBank?
    Works like ClipUp.

    Thanks for that tip! It does seem to work nicely indeed. (Another hint: You'll have to swap ALT/CTRL in TextBank's preferences, if you're using Haiku defaults). Maybe author SHINTA will work on the GUI a bit to have it fit better into Haiku. Actually, things like this and PecoRename should be integrated into the base Haiku, IMO.

    Regards,
    Humdinger

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    Don't know if games come across as important - but I'd love to see Crayon Physics on Haiku. I know there is both windows and linux versions.

    - and no I'm not somehow involved in it - just a fan.

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    kemps4 wrote:

    I'd love to see Crayon Physics on Haiku.

    According to my Linux package manager, the only dependencies are Qt, SDL, and OpenGL + Glew, all of which should be pretty well supported by Haiku already. If you ask nicely, maybe they'll consider it. :D

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    Exactly! Unique software like this could help Haiku greatly.

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    • Virtualbox

    I think this program is a key thing for new operating systems.

    Re: What apps do you need on Haiku?

    1. Multitrack Audio Editor
    2. Html5
    3. Presonus FP10 (Firepod) driver
    4. Festival TTS