What apps do you need on Haiku?

Finally i got an Office app: ThinkFree (thanks to OpenJDK)

Works quite well (but some functionality, like "save as pdf") still doesn't work.. But is stable and has some interesting and useful functionality, like autosave!

I have found it by google, on haikuware.ru.. So many thanks to 3dEyes and to Hamish for OpenJDK port!

Bare minimum would be WINE or VirtualBox, so I could run all the Windows apps that I need on Haiku and wait for native versions or alternatives. Eventually, it would be great to have some wrappers and similiar stuff to make Linux apps work (user-mode Linux or something like that), for example Linux emulation layer like in FreeBSD.

Currently, I would need:
- Dropbox client (I'm working on it right now)
- Nice browser with HTML5 support that doesn't crash all the time, Opera port would be nice, but I don't think it's possible - WINE could help here, or Linux emulation layer.
- IM with support for Skype and XMPP/Jabber. Skype port would be nice, but I don't think it would be possible. Again, WINE or emulation layer. Caya is nice, but lacks a lot of features at the moment.
- Flash Player (not really possible) or updated Gnash port. It would enable me to use imo.im as a Skype replacement.
- Office 2010 or similiar stuff, I'd really love an office app with Ribbon-like UI (I know everybody hates it, but I actually love that feature). WINE will suffice here, of course.
- Photoshop. I don't want an updated GIMP port, nothing will replace Photoshop. Although it would be nice to have Mono and Pinta here, I like that one. I don't think that Photoshop port is even possible, but WINE would really help here.
- UMPlayer would be nice, although I don't think I'll need that one with Haiku's Media Player.
- Audio player with Last.fm support. I think I could use aTunes when the OpenJDK port is ready.
- Hyperdesktop-like screenshot app. It would be great if I could just press one keyboard shortcut, select part of the screen, accept and have it automatically uploaded to Imgur, as I can on Windows.
... and a lot of other apps that I use from time to time and can't even remember their names.

If you need all those emulators and layers, what would be the point of using Haiku instead of Windows or Linux?

In other words, what is it about Haiku that makes you want to use it instead of an alternative operating system?

The fact that it's free, light, and offers a UI that's free from the endless fiddling that plagues consumer operating systems.

Ideally, one could get along using all native apps, but the fact is that for the moment, there is no (full) native equivalent to, say, Photoshop, or Buzz, or what-have-you. Until such time as there is, having a Windows compatibility layer available would make a Haiku system orders of magnitude more usable than having to reboot into Windows every time one of those applications is needed.

Now i can also start (using OpenJDK files for Haiku and startup scripts)
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I believe there are already some simple Qt word processors which work in Haiku and which support BiDi. But obviously long term Haiku needs both a good, simple word processor (quite a bit more than StyledEdit, or a majorly extended StyledEdit) as well as Right To Left and BiDi text support.

I haven't used that, but maybe some of the existing Haiku mail clients like the included Mail or Beam could be upgraded to match Claws Mail.

I love xplorer2 on Windows myself and would also like to see this on Haiku. Frankly I think it would make more sense to do a native version, since there are a lot of nice Haiku specific features to leverage. Though I believe FreePascal has worked on Haiku before, but I seriously doubt it has bindings to the Haiku GUI APIs.

I don't know if it is all that usable yet, but a long-time Haiku developer named Jon Yoder (with the nickname DarkWyrm) has been working on a Haiku API wrapper which has support for Lua (and in theory makes it easier to access the Haiku API from other scripting languages.) There is some info about it on his blog, like this post for example (there are more):

http://darkwyrm-haiku.blogspot.com/2011/06/haiku-meet-lua-lua-haiku.html

I have a strong interest in this too, but generally have been too busy working on Haiku itself to spend time on the above. But at my request Jon put libcharlemagne (which is the C library which makes the above possible) on GitHub:

https://github.com/darkwyrm/libcharlemagne

I believe it still needs a lot of work which he currently does not have time for.

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I've been thinking about this a lot recently, and personally I really need most of the following (a couple aren't all that important):

1. Flash videos... preferably in a browser but doesn't have to be. It looks as though vlc 2 is very close to being ported and I can probably cope with that and some flv scraping script.

2. Latex. But betex looks really nice, though I havent tried it yet https://www.haiku-os.org/articles/2012-07-01_betex_and_latex_back

3. Prolog. There is a very old verison of SWI available but it doesnt work with new haiku builds. I think I could probably port a newer version though (doesn't depend on anything much).

4. VirtualBox. Then I'd be happy to run haiku all the time and could boot up linux from haiku when needed. Being able to boot haiku from virtualbox isn't really helpful to me, as I don't have any real reason to do so except to play with it.

5. Office suite - though I don't really write documents with an office suite (vim and latex fit all my needs) I have to open other peoples word documents from time to time, and I do occasionally need a spreadsheet. This seem to be answered by thinkfree, though it's a shame it isn't free. Maybe koffice since there's a qt port already?

6. A DVD creator. I think this is pretty niche but I do make a lot of DVDs of shows I record for my girlfriend because she doesn't have a TV aerial or even a computer, just a (CRT) TV and a DVD player (yeah, she's still in the dark ages). Maybe some linux software can be adapted (I currently use DeVeDe, it's pretty simple).

7. Math software... I use octave and maxima from time to time. Something like wxMaxima and a nice GUI for octave would be really really nice.

8. 3d mechanical design package ala solidworks. Maybe something like freecad can be ported one day (probably needs 3d hardware support though).

9. Circuit design package like designspark (I don't count eagle/kicad in linux as viable options) (this probably requires full 3d support/acceleration)

10. Full power management. Although I could probably scrape by without it, using a laptop really I'd need power management support. I know cpuidle support is being added, and I don't know what that includes, but I mean battery monitoring, switching off idle hard disks, LCD brightness control, power off LCD when lid closed, power management for network cards, etc.

11. Some random libraries that I need for my work. But I think I can port these or they are already ported (no horrible dependencies) - libdwarf, libreadline, libelf, termcap, ncurses...

Could you please give me the names of those word processors?

Yes, I already knew about that. But unfortunately the project seems to be stagnant. And it never became usable.

1: Webkit-based browser
2: Oracle VM VirtualBox
3: Notepad++

:)

Sorry, I should've worded it better. MKVs do indeed work inside MediaPlayer, but not 100% of them, eg. 10-bit ones play with audio only. Plus, MediaPlayer doesn't find subtitles inside of MKVs yet. http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8496
That's what I'm missing in MediaPlayer, which btw I hope will get better and better overtime, since I really like it a lot more than VLC already.

Oh right, that does explain it better :) And yes, although I really like VLC, I'd much rather have MediaPlayer improved more and more so it remains the best option for Haiku.

1. Port Mono
2. Port MonoDevelop
3. .Net libraries to use Haiku Kits.

Sorry I've only used Haiku for a very brief time so forgive my ignorance, but if these are not in Haiku then they should be;

BleachBit - http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net

Conky - http://conky.sourceforge.net - Conky support in Haiku would be great!

DeaDBeeF - http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net

Deluge or Transmission
http://deluge-torrent.org
http://www.transmissionbt.com

Firefox
Gimp

KeePassX - http://www.keepassx.org - This is a must!

Leafpad editor - http://tarot.freeshell.org/leafpad

LibreOffice
MP3 Tag Editor
Nano

This is a MUST ----> OpenVPN

VirtualBox GUEST ADDITIONS - ( I really want to see this)!

VLC
Xchat

Also any type of video encoding ripping application like; (ffmpeg, xvid, etc...)

Avidemux
HandBrake
WinFF - https://code.google.com/p/winff

Also I hope eventually Haiku can get great Nvidia & ATI support, even support by these drivers!

Also hopefully one day Haiku will have hardware support that rivals Linux!

CHEERS

Update version of CL-Amp. Deadbeef works good too.
Wine.
Java with browser plugin so I can play minecraft and while at the same time, login to my bank credentials Online.

If not flash, then at least html5 videos.
Spotify and Steam :P

I like the native browser. I like chromium too, but I like the native better. We need plugins for it.

There is actual working code, there is a roadmap and two developer contracts coming up in December. Core parts of the Haiku package manager have been produced but not yet merged with Haiku's development mainline. The "package filesystem" is a packetized filesystem layer remake of Haiku. This layer (and the whole system being packetized) is the special sauce of the solution, which is why there is no user friendly graphical package manager application available for testing as of yet. The work began with the plumbing, testing the package filesystem concept's viability and the work will likely proceed bottom-up, towards a graphical package manager, repository management tools, automated build tools, and a good user experience for users and developers alike as the guiding star.

More info:
http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2012-08-20_two_contractors_each_two_months
http://www.haiku-os.org/blog/mmadia/2012-08-20_brief_summary_haikus_pack...
http://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/PackageManagement
http://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/PackageManagement/TODO

As far as apps that need to be in Haiku I definitely support these:

VirtualBox, QEmu, some emulator.. As I work on servers and use these a lot for local dev.
As a lot of others do too. Not to mention would help with Haiku's dev too, to be able to test the OS in virtualbox or QEmu while running Haiku (not sure if this us currently doable).

Some form of code editor / IDE like codewarrior or visual studio. This would also Help push development of anything for Haiku forward a lot faster.

HTML5 capable browser (I'm sure this is already being dealt with, I've already read a ton of the various webkit porting comments)

Flash Support in the browser. I know you can already watch youtube videos but that's only a start. This is a general acceptance issue on the flash part, and since adobe is pushing off their linux support to 3rd party developers maybe I can try to work something up to do the same for Haiku.

And whether anyone thinks it's REALLY important or not I will guarantee you it is VITAL. Haiku NEEDS Hardware Video acceleration drivers and I already know this is an uphill battle, but this one point alone can completely change the OS acceptance and usability completely.

FreeBSD kind of ran around this one by building in a linux compatibility layer and just using their drivers, but it also helps that they are running X too. So that kind of makes it a lot easier for them to gain it since they were so far behind on this it wasn't even funny.

But even on my comp, EVERYTHING runs fine, no crashing, issues, etc and I'm on a middle ground system. AMD Phenom II X6 @ 3.3 ghz, on an Asus M5A87 Motherboard with an NVidia GTX560 video card (now I wish I had an ATI Card but oh well I guess as I'm not spending another $400 on another card for now). On my screen (vesa drivers) the most annoying part for me is that it doesn't take up the whole screen (but I can deal for now). I would also volunteer to work on the NVidia side by at least starting with the nouveau driver on linux and at least create a working middle ground for the Nvidia side, at least until we can get them to provide a binary driver. Is it just me or does anyone else see that as acceptable? We shouldn't try to force manufacturer's into providing an open source driver EVER as it's really hard for them to do with the licensing they have to deal with to even create a driver for their own cards (i.e. licensing of techs they use for compression, video decoding, etc). If they would at least provide a binary driver that should be more than enough and that alone I'd be ecstatic with from either ATI or Nvidia. Hell, if either of them would do this I would go out and spend the money on a new card immediately.

I want to switch to Haiku 100%. I've always loved BeOS and haiku IS currently better than it was for most things, though there are some issues on the performance side for slower comps, but this can be solved in stages and isn't that bad off.

The only problem I was having was no network drivers for the realtek on my board. Though when downloading the latest snapshot from the devel, I see that now there are some more bsd drivers involved (just guessing here), but either way now at least that's working :) Very snazzy!

I can't continue with windows 8, not for a full time workstation, I will Loose my freakin mind if I have to do that. So count me in on development help but as with all the devs here I only have so much time I can devote to doing so because I have to work and make money to live.

You guys have already done a great job getting it this far along, and I'm going to be checking out where I can start putting in on dev work on the OS itself because honestly the programs will follow especially when drivers and hardware starts becoming more supported.

Audacity, or something similar. Tried SampleStudio and BeAE, but they are slow, have less features, and buggy.

Blender, nvidia Cuda :3, steam :3
html5 video.
wine maybe
mypaint
wacom bamboo drivers
native gimp last version
webcam

1. Word Processor and Spreadsheet - Gobe is OK but very old.
2. IDE like Eclipse - Paladins great but the multiple file windows on a VM with limited screen space doesn't work too well.
3. Songbird/iTunes/Exile/Rhythm box /etc type media player.
4. Gnash for WebPositive

I love Haiku so far its fast but could use a few more apps.

Cortex, except with 1)the ability to edit connections without stopping playback, 2)the ability to execute graphs as one would a script (including initializing applications included in the graph's nodes), 3)some ide integration akin to nodebox3 or puredata which allow displaying and editing the source of each object and displaying help files detailing the use of each object.

MediaPlayer as a series of nodes that can be disconnected and reconnected all willy-nilly (reading the mailing list, years ago it didn't perform well at all -- what about now? and what about in haiku64?).

WebPositive (oh man, i like the netpositive pun so much better *shakes fist at trademarks*) with each tab in its own thread so the whole thing doesn't freeze while a page loads. also all that other stuff people want (ctrl-tab, html5 and js, flash support and so on).

StyleEdit is like Pe except missing stuff, and so i never see a reason to load it. as a simple document editor with some actual and clearly marked style options -- like the qt textedit demo detailed at http://haiku-os-dev.blogspot.com/2013/06/poormans-write-haiku-os-answer-... -- would be perfect. beyond that, ports of calligra, libreoffice or openoffice would be cool. given time, somebody might set to work on a native office suite (neat thing i've just now read about is NeoOffice, which is a pretty involved port of openoffice to osx's native interface).

I believe there is a difference between what Haiku needs and what users want. I'm still of the belief that Haiku needs to build the foundation of the OS itself first, and then provide a good core set of necessary native Haiku applications. The extras should be developed by third party developers and not be a part of the core Haiku installation. Some of these "core" applications ahould include fully functional software for web browsing, file compression/decompression, CD/DVD burning, media playback, software package management, printing and email.

here is my list:

1: latest verison of firefox
2: latest version of sonbird
3: latest version of Midori
3: KDE 4
5: Trinity
6: Vokoscreen
7: Wine (this is allready possible but the devloers don't wnat to put in the little effert of changeing the one file needed.)
8: port of playonlinux called playonhaiku
9:: Vissualboyadvance
10: snap shot feature like in PC-BSD
11: dolphin emmulator port
12: dreamcast emmulator
13 latest port of VLC
13: haiku screen savor
14: openjdk
15: blu-ray suport
16: gens/gs
17: ext2 ready/write suport in the installer
18: chromium

1. Word processing
2. Spreadsheet
3. presentation application
1-3---------> Open Office?
4. Browser with HTMK5, Flash or a videoplayer linkt with the browser to play videos
5. new eUAE port
6. Steam ;-)
7. Painting application without layers like corel draw photo paint
8. Teamspeak 3
9. USB Joystick driver
10. USB Headset driver
11. Driver to make zeta Games running on Haiku (Amiga Classix Gold, Robin Hood, Airline tycoon)
12. much more terminal tool from linux world (administration, file proecessing)
13. Compressing tool with password support (rar, zip...)
14. Gambas
15. Palystation One Emulator
16. Video Cutting program
17. Audio cutting program
18. Multiuser Suport
19. Installer program for extended apps (not package manager)
20. SDL 3 port to get...
21. ...EGSL2 (Pulsar) in the future
22. Make archive files moutable to use then out of the compressed file or support files running out of compressed files (zip,rar...)
23. Preferences panel with all settings included, not many little tools
24. Make many old games runnable under Haiku again (LBreakout2, LGeneral, Head over hells...)
... and much more ;-)

I have one point more:

25. A security server (with switching ON or OFF function) to warning if a programs connect to the internet and to warning if a program use a terminal app (This with "accept any time", "accept one time"...)

I suggested LO 'cause it's - slowly - becoming platform indipendent...

We do need a platform-indipendent software, anyway.

I don't see the problem, if it's updated.

Blender VSE stay for "Video Sequence Editor".

Check it out:
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.4/Manual/Sequencer/Usage
http://blendervse.wordpress.com/

DosBox is a Dos emulator: you can use it for running old Dos games, of course.
Or you're claiming that we need a specific native port for any game ?
If so, it's a losing game.

Involving 3rd party devs (even better if official projets' team) is the way to go, IMHO.