What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Hi Haiku users and devs
I've not tried Haiku in a few years so I thought it was time to try it again.
The major new feature to have arrived since I last tried Haiku is Haikudepot. I was pleasantly surprised to find LMMS - one great Qt app that I didn't know had been ported to Haiku - but disappointed there was no KOffice or Scribus in Haikudepot.
Why not? Bit rot? Do they now require a newer Qt than Haiku has available? I suppose those who aren't happy with using Google Docs , Office 365 etc will have to wait for a Libreoffice port.

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Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
I think KOffice had a lot of dependencies on the KDE platform that has not been maintained or supported on newer versions of Haiku. And now Koffice is a dead project and not supported any more. So we still need a good Office productivity platform for Haiku. Google Docs works ok in the Haiku browser for basic work.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Oh yes! I forgot - KOffice is called Calligra these days.
Calligra isn't dead, it had a new release less than a month ago. I'd prefer a LO port but I would've thought Calligra would've been easier - especially as KOffice has already been (mostly) ported in the past.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Scribus
http://haiku.uwolke.ru/repo/binaries-x86_gcc2/#En
TFO4
http://clasquin-johnson.co.za/michel/haiku/java-apps/java-office-suites/...
Demo
http://www.youtube.com/user/1wqwqdedw
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Thanks for the links kim1963!
I'll try that Scribus package out soon but is there any reason anyone knows of why its not available from Haikudepot yet? Maybe there is a lot of extra work to get things packaged for the depot?
TFO = JAVA = :/
Its better than having no office suites though so I'll prob try the demo.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
I found Scribus here: http://haiku.uwolke.ru/repo/binaries-x86_gcc2/packages/scribus_x86-1.4.5...
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
I've just tried TFO by instaling kim1963's package from here:
http://clasquin-johnson.co.za/michel/haiku/java-apps/java-office-suites/...
Unfortunately Write doesn't show a page and so you can't enter any text and neither the menus nor the cells get displayed for me under Calc.
ThinkFree don't seem to officially support Haiku or BeOS so we're probably out of luck unless someone can fix the JDK port so it all works properly.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
I've just had a quick look at Scribus and that seems to be working fine. Its definitely one of the most impressive Haiku apps I've tried so far but sadly it can't import Opendocument (.odt) or Office (.doc, .docx) files which is what I expected, to be honest. It can however import PDF, OO/LO draw and Illustrator files so thats handy to have if less in demand by the average user.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
It seems Sum-It has some support for importing .xls files but it hasn't worked well in my (limited) testing.
It would be great to see Sum-It get improved to the point where it can at least load and correctly handle the majority basic spreadsheets. I'm not talking about achieving parity with Excel or even LO/OO Calc but just be able to cover the basics.
Haiku's limited developer resources are probaby better focused on a LO port but I think many would still like a lightweight, open source and native Haiku spreadsheet which is what sum-it could evolve into if somebody put the effort in.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
I've got Abiword to build with gcc2 using Haikuporter but it has cursor display / redraw issues and it crashes whenever I try to load a doc or docx file, which was the main thing I wanted it for.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
I've got Abiword to build with gcc2 using Haikuporter but it has cursor display / redraw issues and it crashes whenever I try to load a doc or docx file, which was the main thing I wanted it for.
The Abiword port you compiled is a attamp to port a 2.8 version with mainly the base from abiword 1.0 and before.. There are lot of bugs and odd stuff in there (eg. the dialogs are loaded from flatterned archives - and not constructed via code)
Some people already trying to bring it to a usable stage:
https://github.com/HaikuArchives/AbiWord
You can help with creating bugreports
I tried to use Abiword on Windows and linux... i am not shure anymore if its worth the work. Even on linux and windows there are bugs open since years.
Anyway the loading file problem should be solved.. in this branch:
https://github.com/Paradoxianer/AbiWord
But there are still a tons of issues wich renders it unusuable. As i said: its an super outdated an incomplete port.
In the best times (in the year 2000) five people where working on a usable port for beos... and it never was really complete - so you can see how much work it is.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Has any one tryed MasterPiece? It is a markup editor style word processor applcation with a 'what you see is what you mean' interface. It can create odt or pdf files.
https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Masterpiece
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Paradoxon:
Thanks for the links. I tried building your fork but it said it couldn't find fribidibi or whatever but I've got both the gcc2 and 4 versions installed and I successfully used them to build the Abiword recipe in ports. From what you say about it its prob not really worth me bothering unless I wanted to try to fix it. It may take more effort but Calligra seems like a better bet to me, plus that'd bring us a spreadsheet.
richienyhus:
That's interesting but not really what I'm looking for, thanks. I'm sure others will find a use for something like that.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Paradoxon:
If you've been reading my other threads on here you'll have spotted that Calligra looks like a no-go at the moment due to the buggy kdelibs port so I'm back to trying to build your patched Abiword source.
checking for gucharmap >= 1.4... checking for enchant >= 1.1.0... checking for fribidi >= 0.10.4...
fribidi sources can be downloaded from SourceForge
http://freedesktop.org/Software/FriBidi
Note: Don't use the fribidi source which is sometimes
included with AbiWord since that version is for
Windows only.
configure: error: * * * fribidi >= 0.10.4 is required * * *
However I've got all the latest fribidi dev packages installed for gcc2 and 4. Any tips?
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Hi PulkoMandy
Unfortunately config.log doesn't give any more info relating to fribidi than what I've already reproduced previously in this thread.
A buggy word processor is better than no word processor IMO. No-one has suggested any fixes to sort out my display issues with TFO and at least with Abiword we have a chance of fixing issues due to it being open source.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
I have exact the same type of problem with one of my notebooks. Its a Acer Aspire 5250 (AMD
C-50/RadeonHD 6250 APU). TFO works on my other machines quite well. I didnt had the time to investigate it further, yet.
Sorry for being offtopic ;)
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
You're not off-topic Gedrin. Anything to do with getting a working word processor (read: something that can load .doc and/or .odt files) running under Haiku is on-topic in this thread as far as I'm concerned.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
paradoxon:
The fribidi depot packages got updated recently so thats no longer the issue when trying to build your AbiWord fork, instead:
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
KOffice is here: http://tiltos.com/drupal/node/17
Anyway LibreOffice is the way to go, IMHO...
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Both paradoxons fork and the fork PM linked successfuly build if you just run `make` but in both cases `make install` fails with an error like:
However, it seems you can get away with not doing a complete install and just run the binary. Paradoxon's fork does let you open .doc files but it is flawed in that you cannot scroll through the document if it is a multi-page doc but thats better than the other forks that just crash as soon as you try to load a .doc.
TFO seems to be the only usable option now, I just hope we are able to get it to print. I suspect the jdk port isn't aware of or compatible with Haiku's print server.
forart.it:
It seems TiltOS hasn't been updated in 5 years. I highly doubt its going to work under recent Haiku builds as it predates the package management etc by some time. Even if it did work, Calligra greatly improved Office import and I don't think Koffice supported ODF 5 years ago so I don't think its even worth trying.
Thanks for the link anyway! :)
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
it's calligra now, koffice is dead and is not the same suite. has anyone here tried installing anything from kde5 now that qt5 is ported?
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Hi,
Does anyone know where Scribus could be downloaded?
Thank you.
Though I'm new to this community, I must say IMO the person(s) who operated HaikuWare and took it offline to conduct a survey are not doing anyone any favors. What odd behavior.
Re: What happened to KOffice and Scribus?
Hi,
Does anyone know where Scribus could be downloaded?
Thank you.
Though I'm new to this community, I must say IMO the person(s) who operated HaikuWare and took it offline to conduct a survey are not doing anyone any favors. What odd behavior.
http://haiku.uwolke.ru/repo/binaries-x86_gcc2/packages/scribus_x86-1.4.5...