Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Would it be '"baron" like in BeOS, or will Haiku follow the tradition and pick the name of someone with proven (sp?) "bug-finding" skills instead?
I have nothing against Baron, but I think that maybe Haiku's devs could find a new "Baron" out there, among the not-coders in our beloved platform.
What do you think?
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Re: Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
I vote "Axel"
Re: Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Mmm, I was thinking in not "using" actual Haiku's developers... "it's their job" to find/fix bugs after all :-P
I was thinking in Haiku's devs voting/picking the name of "just a user" from our comunity, that has proven valuable in the bug-hunting fields.
Just a thought.
Re: Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Me! :-p
No, I vote Axel as well. Or have each file owned by its team leader - media apps are Marcus, etc....
Or stick with Baron. It might actually break some shell scripts otherwise.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Walter, of course. :)
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
yeh I was going to say Walter I'll bet :lol:
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
If not Bob, then I want Walter. Whom else could I trust?
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LOL@h_ank's Bob link...you've convinced me.
MYOB, do you know of any particular shell scripts it would break? I don't know much about shell scripting so I'm kinda curious how that could work.
I definitely like the idea of Axel being the default and team leaders' names being used everywhere else, with a bit of Walter thrown in on items of special interest, and I am also utterly convinced that we all need to spend much more time and consideration on this crucial issue.
Kev
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Walter seems appropriate.
Why not Adam? (I'm not religious, I just like Adam and what it represents)
Or... you can say that Haiku itself owns your filesystem.
Axel = Lexa maybe?
Just some ideas.
Doca
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Walter works too ;) ...and is slightly more universal and fair to the whole team.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
I vote for Axel
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Axel
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
The only logical successors which come to my mind are lord, duke, earl, count, countess, king, queen, emperor, and imperator.
But I think the new user name should reflect that Haiku is open source, unlike BeOS, therefore "parliament" or "assembly" would be more appropriate. Slightly OT,but I think the New Zealand parliament is called "beehive" (due to the architecture of the building), we could make a "BeHive" out of that.
Or, how about a boring, but simple "user"? Or "root", for the Unix guys?
And I propose that because a haiku has 5, 7 and again 5 syllables, all files come with 575 rights.
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What an impressive coincidence! :shock:
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
So the group can do anything, whilst the owner and everyone who isn't included in the group may only read and execute? The idea looks interesting when read, but won't work well when we finally get multiple user capabilities.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
I vote Axel :D.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
What about simply "you" ?
Since, after all, you do own your files, why give them to someone else?
And since Haiku is open source, it belongs to everyone, so even if I am using someone else's machine, the system would still belong to me :D
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
maybe you should get to choose your own :O
parliament
root, haiku, parliament, or you are my votes. I think parliament is the most unique though ââ¬â it represents the fact that in the opensource world, all contributions are helpful and important (just like in parliament or the senate)
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'you' is a bad choice. Why? Haiku will almost certainly be a multi-user operating system one day, and not everyone using a system will own the system files and such. 'parliament' and such don't really work, I think. Your system is run by an administrator, not a legislature.
I think we should just stick with 'baron'. It's one of those little bits of BeOS that makes it BeOS.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
I say Walter. Fits better with Haiku's history.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Older discussion, but I also vote for Walter. It just makes sense to me...
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Actually when i think about it, "System" or "Haiku" is a better choice then Axel/Walter.
Axel and Walter are names, of whom most will not know anything about. (Think of the average user). They will become confused, and disoriented, or worse.
My Choice is to retain the current user ("baron") until R1, and at around R1, change the Owner of the System Files to System.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Perhaps.
For R1, I assume multi-users won't be supported. In that case, all files should be owned by the user. I'm not familiar with how things are ATM, but if the username is now called "baron", then that should be the owner. By the same token, if the username can be specified upon installation, then that should be the owner. Instead of "baron", you could choose "Jonathon" or "root" as your username.
Beyond R1, when multi-user functionality is added, only global files (i.e. shared among all users, like system files and such) should be owned by "baron" (or whatever the system username is). The rest of the files will be owned by their respective users.
Just my two cents...
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you are right about "you". I still like Parliament, but System is probobly a more traditional choice. Solid and accurate.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
I think for compatibility reasons it will stay "baron" (as is hardcoded now).
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
could they not be "synonyms" ââ¬â baron would remain for backward compatability and System would be used for R2+. Regardless, users should never see baron, (especially a lowercase baron), they should see System in the UI. I mean, if baron (Baron) is really that important, than it would have to become a big thing, a motif. A whole section in help ââ¬â and in other places, like an ad.
Sample Help Entry
Who is the Baron? Haiku names your computer's system manager Baron. The Baron is responsible for managing . . . . service . . . . bla. . . . bla . . . . If you are an experienced user, you can allow logging into Baron by setting the appropriate preference in System Poet, the system database manager (similar to NetInfo Manager found in Macintosh). This is generally not recommended for security reasons. For more information, visit the Baron's support article at: haiku-os.org/support/info/012807_1.html
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This really reminds me of microsoft/alienating tech support! :o
If Haiku ever needs more than a FAQ + update section, we should make support/tech notes very user friendly balanced against not patronising the user.
Maybe, support.haiku-os.org/why-baron-looks-after-files/
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
how about you make your own user? and possibly in the future support for more users.
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I thought they were talking about the name for the root user. It is generally accepted that Haiku will become a multi-user OS in the future. no?
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
**interesting tangent warning**
Actually you are rigth, a name is much better than the date. Really, it comes down to whatever CMS is used for it right? My vote would be either a heavily skinned media-wiki (think hula project) or a good Haiku theme for Drupal.
Edit: actually, OpenSuse looks nice too (albeit more simplistic, although I like the boxes around the edit, discussion, and view source buttons) . Novell does a good job with websdegisn IMHO.
Edit [2]: Hey "Microsoft" ââ¬â no name calling.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Why not letting user choose which name to use?
Anyway if there be a name to take I would vote for creating a nice mascot
(comic like), giving it a name, and using that name :)
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Because Haiku is, and will redefine, a "DesktopOS".
IMHO,
System files should be owned by the "System", there should be No administrator account for Desktop use, and "Haiku" shouldn't have a mascot. Haiku should keep it's leaves, which really do reflect how simple & elegant Haiku is.
I do believe that OpenTracker should refocus itself interms of a mascot - Tracker, your trusty DesktopOS companion, could fill the much unwanted void of a mascot. People could still associate "Tracker" with Haiku, thus still polling in popularity - whilst still keeping Haiku's simple & elegant focus.
Just my thoughts, at this point in time, i guess...
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
er ... who exactly is Walter ? :e)
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_The_Operating_System
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So you don't think Haiku should eventually become a multi-user OS, as Be, Inc intended BeOS to eventually become?
I think Haiku eventually becoming a fully multiuser OS is important.
Who will "own" my files on Haiku R1?
Of course Haiku will.
I was more learning towards 'You can't use Admin for day-to-day uses', as with other operating systems. (Eg Windows).