General Haiku Discussion

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Would people actually buy a nice box of Haiku R1?

Forum thread started by Kevin Ar18 on Sun, 2010-05-16 02:04

It has been suggested on the mailing list the possibility of having boxes made for Haiku R1 (paid for via pre-sales, so there's no upfront cost).

I'm curious as to whether any thinks people would actually buy boxes of a free os that can just be downloaded, copied on CDs, etc....

The concept was to have some very nicely designed boxes with Haiku CD, manual, and maybe even a collectible object.

What every became of Tave Imagination?

Forum thread started by Kevin Ar18 on Sun, 2010-05-16 02:01

The image editing software noted here:
http://adrian.ziemkowski.com/film/tave/imagination.php

As far as I can tell, it was never sold to another company.

Ideas for a video tutorial series needed

Forum thread started by RhapsodyGuru on Fri, 2010-05-14 03:11

Hello everyone:

As I have announced on the [haiku] general mailing list, my intent is to go forward with a creative and exciting project for my senior thesis at college. I wish to create a series of tutorial videos that demonstrate the Haiku operating system to everyone, particularly to beginners, in a way that is easy to understand and to follow, yet very informative. I need some ideas and suggestions from the whole community so that I will be able to gauge what sort of content I should cover and how it should be delivered. The following are things I am looking for, but don't limit yourself to this list here! Anything goes! I want this to be a successful project that everyone can benefit from.

- Since you were all new to Haiku once, what things about Haiku were confusing to you as a beginner? What should be clarified more for those just getting their feet wet with this operating system?

- Would you like videos that contrast popular OSes like Windows and Mac OS X to Haiku? Or would you rather talk about the OS purely from its own merits without bringing to mention any other OSes?

- What categories about the OS (Multimedia-centric, symmetrical multiprocessing demos, etc) would you like covered? Should I get into some technical detail or avoid that altogether and assume the viewer to not know anything about that?

- Should I give a video that shows someone trying the OS who has never seen it or used it in his or her life? Maybe it will help the faint of heart who watch it feel more willing to try it if the newbie was able to figure it out just fine.

These are just a few icebreakers. Please contribute anything you might find useful to this project in terms of ideas, comments and suggestions. Thank you everyone and I hope to commence on this project in the very-near future! ^_^

Guru

Intro to programming for 13 yr old?

Forum thread started by Alchemy on Thu, 2010-05-13 14:25

I am familiar with light programming but far from a programmer. My son is just starting to get interested in computers and is interested in Haiku since I am.

To introduce him to programming gently I am using REXX. I have "Teach Yourself REXX in 21 days". I have it running on a Mac Mini but would like to get it running on Haiku. I have tried to get the 3.3 Beos version of REGINA from BeBits to install but it did not work on Alpha 2.

If anyone has a REGINA version running on Haiku please let me know. I think it should be doable.

I am challenging him to write a program to identify all prime numbers from 1 to 1,000,000. That is about the limit of my programming skill as well.

Never looked at Yab but might have to.

Is GOBE Productive working in Alpha 2? I bought it years ago.

Unluckiest hardware for Haiku

Forum thread started by Zenja on Thu, 2010-05-13 09:02

I've been regularly trying out Haiku on my primary desktop machine, and with the Alpha2 I think I have the most unluckiest Haiku box out there. In order to get Haiku running on this box, I need to specify the following Safe mode options:

x - same mode (otherwise random crashes when boot to desktop)
x - disable dma (cannot boot from IDE disk otherwise)
x - disable io-apic (this one is optional, but makes USB mouse input less jerky)
x - disable local-apic (locks up after 3 icon without it)
x - disable smp (locks up before 1st icon)

And Haiku finally boots. I've basically used a binary approach and tried every combination of safe mode options (it's taken 2 days of constant reboots).

ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe (nVidia 590 chipset)
AMD X4 9850 Phenom (Black)

However, this combination of safe mode options doesn't enable any of my 3 network cards. The first alpha, however, required only DMA to be disabled, and the box was almost fully functional. I updated the CPU and BIOS a couple of weeks ago, so I think that the combination of quad core and my BIOS just doesn't like Haiku. I'm not really complaining, since I've had nasty experiences with ASUS BIOS on this box in the past (eg. v203 didn't allow floppy access from real mode, v0501 didn't enable DMA, v1201 disable CPU fan monitoring, v2205-2207 didn't allow bios changes to be saved to flash (unbelievable), currently running 2209). Yay ASUS for quality control, never buying anything from them again.

On the plus side, my MacBookPro loves Haiku. Except for VESA graphics, almost everything else is fully supported. Yay.

So, has anyone got a more unlucky box for Haiku? :)

Haiku Alpha 2 on the Toshiba NB205

Forum thread started by RhapsodyGuru on Wed, 2010-05-12 13:01

Hi everyone:

I have been playing with Haiku Alpha 2 on my Toshiba NB205 netbook and I must say I am extremely impressed with the level of support that already exists in my hardware. Since the Intel chip is properly recognized, the screen display is at native resolution, sound mostly works, and I think my Atheros 928X is seen by the OS (I still have yet to test the wireless network support). Anyway I noticed a few issues with my current setup as well.

* The audio does not work via headphones. I can only hear my audio over the built-in netbook speaker.
* Advanced Power Management isn't flawless. When I click shutdown, my netbook hangs at a blank screen after the shutdown progress dialog box disappears.
* Wired ethernet is not detected.
* The flurry screensaver stutters quite a bit, even though I am running on an Intel display driver.
* Mouse clicks are not terribly responsive, but I suspect this could be an issue with hardware.
* Is there a way I can get a volume control slider for the audio placed in the deskbar?

Those are all the percieved issues I have encountered so far. Can anyone provide any solutions or answers for any of the bulleted issues listed? Thank you Haiku team for a great release! I am looking forward to future builds.

~Guru

Haiku on wikipedia

Forum thread started by richienyhus on Tue, 2010-05-11 07:35

G'day

I just want to let everyone know that Maxim Sokhatsky and myself [1]
have been doing a little work on Wikipedia. Maxim has added a "Haiku
Operating System Components" template box [2] that will link between
the Haiku's Components (Add-Ons, Kits, Servers and Daemons); sadly
there is not much content as wiki deleted some of Maxim's work. I on
the other hand created the "Haiku Software" template box [3] that
will link between the Software that is included in Haiku's official
releases (Applications (Core & Bundled), Binary utilities,
Preferences, Developer Tools). We only have a few (Core & Bundled)
apps so far; they include: Bootman, Poorman, Tracker, BePDF, Pe,
Vision and WebPositive.

I am hoping that people will add to wiki and provide basic
encyclopedic information (non user guide type stuff). And that each
piece of software will have a "Software Infobox" that supplies a logo,
screenshot and the license. I also hope that each app will have link
to its page on the Haiku User Guide, in order for people to learn how
to use it. Tracker's page kind of already meets this standard [4].

I want to add most of the apps when I have time during the winter
holidays in the southern hemisphere, but of course anyone can add them
before then. At that point I would like like to try to rewrite the
main Haiku page on wiki in that time as I think it is shockingly
disjointed.

~Richie

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[1] plus a bit of help from The123king.
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Haiku_Operating_System_Components
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Haiku_Software
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_Tracker

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