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Qt on Haiku

Forum thread started by farvardin on Wed, 2009-10-21 21:45

What, Qt and a Webkit browser are working quite well on Haiku, and nobody is talking about this yet??

http://www.beosfrance.com/articles.php?cat=article&id=592

The direct link to the archive: http://downloads.beosfrance.com/Qt4HaikuDemoPack_a1.zip

It's getting 98% in Acid test 3 (contrary to firefox 2 which is getting 38%), and it's a bit faster.

Hitting a moving target

Forum thread started by fhein on Wed, 2009-10-21 07:15

So I every now and then I get reminded by Haiku, check out the web page and think "This looks like a pretty nice project". Ever since the demise of Amiga some 10 years ago I've been searching for the holy grail of OS:es. Well this time there was even a downloadable Alpha R1 (congrats on that, btw!) so I gave it a try in VirtualBox. And though it did look nice in several ways, I couldn't help feeling more nostalgic than hopeful for the future.

Now don't get me wrong here, I'd really want a project like Haiku to succeed so I'm just sharing my opinion :)

Obviously Haiku is in alpha stage, but it got me thinking about what you're aiming for. BeOS was probably great 10 years ago (never tried it because, well I had an Amiga :)) when it was competing against Windows 98, MacOS 9 and AmigaOS 3.5. Let's say you work hard and manage to release alpha 2 and then the finished R1 late 2010. It will have been a very impressive feat, but the end result is - if I'm not mistaken - a clone of a 15 years old OS.

In the meantime there's been quite a bit progress in the OS field and hardware has become 10-fold more powerful. I think OSX is a good example of how designers strived to reinvent the way you work with a computer, instead of just polishing and reskinning previous versions. But even Microsoft has begun working harder and their Windows has sucked less with (almost) every release. From what I hear Win7 almost doesn't suck at all :)

So my point is that I think you should set your aim in the future. Try to imagine what BeOS would've been in 2012, if it had continued to evolve, instead of what it was in 2002!

Once again, don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome that Haiku is efficient and can run on 15-year-old hardware, but for me to use an OS that looks 10 years old it will have to compensate a lot by being really great in all other areas. If your intended target group is anything else than only "people who are willing to write their own OS" I think you need to plan for more advanced visual styles and effects. Not entirely replacing the current looks, but make sure Haiku could "easily" be extended to utilize modern hardware.

But I'm not talking about just visual appearance and effects, how people work with computers have evolved too. I'm going to write another post, that nobody will probably every read, with some suggestions regarding this. I suggest everybody who hasn't done so already takes a look at the Firefox plugin Ubiquity and use it for a few days. Linux users could also get Gnome-Do for similar functionality on an OS level. Neither of these are perfect or complete, but they give a hint of what powers could be at your fingertips.

Haiku Boot Loader

Forum thread started by RhapsodyGuru on Sun, 2009-10-11 18:47

Hello...

Is there a way to make the Haiku boot loader install to the hard disk? I tried selecting the option during install to write the boot loader to disk, but it doesn't seem to work. Am I doomed to booting off the CD first or is there a fix in the works?

Guru

Compile VLC 1.x from source

Forum thread started by RhapsodyGuru on Sun, 2009-10-11 01:25

Hey...

Is there any way to compile VLC 1.x in Haiku? I am tired of using the crusty 0.86i version. It's getting long in the tooth in terms of lacking support for newer formats. Thanks!

Guru

Haikube?

Forum thread started by nonne on Sat, 2009-10-10 11:44

Are there any plans to start selling Haiku preinstalled on dedicated hardware? I think that when the arm port is finished a"Haikube" based on the Beagleboard in a small bamboo case would be really nice and very green too.

http://beagleboard.org/
http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/62/1/

Newbie Question

Forum thread started by Joseph Grasser on Fri, 2009-10-09 18:04

Hello-

I am completely new to Haiku, BeOS, and operating system design in general; I am currently taking a course in OS Design. I was wondering what I could do to get more familiar with the internal workings of Haiku.

I understand that the Haiku website has a page for people wanting to get started. I read it, but I was hoping for a more detailed view of how the OS actually works; i.e. what kind of thread model (one to one, many to one, many to many, etc), what kind of scheduling algorithms do you use, what kind of deadlock prevention algorithms you use, etc. I understand that this can all be extrapolated from the code, but before I spend innumerable hours pouring over source code I thought I should check to see if this information is readily available.

Thanks.

avi to dvd

Forum thread started by johnscare on Thu, 2009-10-08 18:39

was thinking about trying Haiku for the first time, and wanted to know if they are any programs for converting an avi file into a dvd?

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