General Haiku Discussion

I am glad to see the existence of Haiku, I discovered Haiku a fews days ago, just wasting my time googgling..., i was looking for alternative O/S since i am not quite happy with windows, linux and OSX. After read so many articles about haiku, i think its better to just try to ask here.

in my opinion in the context of Desktop O/S:

Windows : is the best Desktop O/S for end user, relatively easy, a lot of hardware support, a lot of application support, and quite stable, but its microsoft! closed source and not free

OSX : it was nice, but apple is doing everything just to make OS beautiful, they bundled the OS with bunch of applications and said it was OS features, see WWDC they just showing up the application side not the OS side, they just doing it for marketing the hardware (mac), and its closed hardware, relatively few software compared to windows, and not free.

Linux : its high performance OS, very reliable, and flexible OS, you can make it just how you want to be, but its a crap for end user, linux is operating system from developer for developer, not for PC users. What i hate is the monolithic kernel, centralized repository, complicated app. installations, scripts everywhere, to many versions and branch, complicated app. dependencies, lack of unification : X11, X.org, WindowManager, desktop environments... user are free to choose which one they like but is bad i dont like it.

so I hope Haiku could fix it, make the better O/S out of those O/S...

here are my questions and suggestions

the good side of OSX.
very easy installations, you just download the package and copy (or extract) it to harddisk then run, simple! nice! efficient!... don't ever do what linux does, repository, install script, library dependencies, even manual compilations. its all crap and obsolete.
-My Question related to this is, how does haiku implement the application installation?

the good side of windows
they have a lot of applications and hardware drivers
-My Question, is there any development tools to develop haiku app. easier?, how about the hardware driver? it would need a lot of time to make OS easy to run on broad options of hardware, see linux after more than 10 years, the driver problem is still the big problem, can we just use windows driver to make it run on Haiku? maybe cooperation with ReactOS developers?

the good side of linux
they have a high performance kernel, a lot option to use advanced filesystem, advanced and high performance networking, highly customizable.
My Question, how does haiku performance compared to linux? is there any benchmark, or at least we have something superior to linux?

thanks!, any comments?

Hi,
I'm working on a IM Kit client for Haiku.

Currently planned features are:
* Emoticons support, with a enable/disable option on Preflet
* Contact list like other instant messaging clients
* Support for sending files and contacts to people

Other features that may be implemented:
* Themable emoticons, maybe integrated with mmu_man themes effort
* Logging of messages
* Notifications using InfoPopper

Obviously a part of this features is already implemented by im_client and im_emoclient so it's a matter of merge the two clients.

What do you think.

I'm getting a "You need gcc-2.95.3-haiku-[number] over at haiku-os.org" error message, when I type "configure". Yet I can't locate it anywhere here at haiku-os.org. And it's not over at BeBits either. I've downloaded the latest buildtools and tried making them (using configure --make-build-tools /[path to buildtools]), but when I type "jam -q haiku-image", it tells me that there's no BuildConfig (or whatever) in generated/build! It wants me to run configure again!

I got a wierd "*** End Error 2" (or something) when I tried the "configure --make-build-tools..." thing. Anevilyak tells me that's an error message that basically means that "make-build-tools" didn't happen or something.

I figured, since Darkwyrm wrote the original "How To Get Haiku" file, he would be the best one to revise it to take these new changes into account... but... his Earthlink account is down, due to inactivity.

Anyone here still use BeOS R5 to build Haiku, or is everyone using Ubuntu Linux nowadays? Someone HAS to have an answer...

H E L P !!!

Luposian