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Haiku and multiple cpu's

Forum thread started by KantosKan on Fri, 2013-11-08 01:54

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are any computers for which Haiku recognizes 4 or more cpu's ? I have only seen it indicate 2 cpu's in the icon display, even though the Intel iMac on which I run Haiku has two double-core cpu's. Way back in 1997 I saw a demo of BeOS running on a BeBox with 8 cpu's. The performance was incredible. More than 16 years later Apple and Microsoft still can't compare with that demo. I would love to get an 8 cpu machine for Haiku, or even 4.

Haiku and multiple cpu's

Forum thread started by KantosKan on Fri, 2013-11-08 01:54

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are any computers for which Haiku recognizes 4 or more cpu's ? I have only seen it indicate 2 cpu's in the icon display, even though the Intel iMac on which I run Haiku has two double-core cpu's. Way back in 1997 I saw a demo of BeOS running on a BeBox with 8 cpu's. The performance was incredible. More than 16 years later Apple and Microsoft still can't compare with that demo. I would love to get an 8 cpu machine for Haiku, or even 4.

Will AMD's Mantle API benefit Haiku?

Forum thread started by speewave on Wed, 2013-11-06 12:21

I saw that AMD was releasing a close to the metal API (think Glide) for their current generation of GPUs (Mid range 7000 Series and The entire Rx Series) that was to be an open standard. I was just curious if that would be a possible option for Haiku next to OpenGL\Gallium and if there'd be any developmental benefits for 3D\2D\Video programming

Decent software for Haiku: Will it become a lost art?

Forum thread started by The French Rat on Tue, 2013-11-05 08:58

I recently installed Haiku on VirtualBox, and I decided to install some software. I visited all the major software sites for Haiku, then I realised something: all the software for Haiku is hopelessly outdated. I think that, unless a large development community starts developing up to date software, decent software for Haiku would become a lost art, killing Haiku's popularity and eventually, the OS itself.

The French Rat

cortex

Forum thread started by skarmiglione on Sat, 2013-11-02 08:21

Hello, one of the things i fallen in love with haiku os is that "cortex" i never used it for nothing but i ever has supect that thing should rock, but how? anybody can explain me?, i can imagine software who lack one trick can obtain from another software with the ports opens to be used on cortex, is it like i can imagine? or better?
Why there are so poor information about this tool, i want write an arcticle, can help me with information?

Benchmark

Forum thread started by Mugsy on Tue, 2013-10-29 20:17

Just curious if there's a benchmark out there that runs under Haiku whose results can be compared to another OS (Windows, Linux, etc)?

I'm wondering if Haiku runs any faster that some other major OS's.

The role of app developers

Forum thread started by foobear on Sun, 2013-10-27 12:10

It seems to me that although some progress is constantly being made, Haiku struggles to attract enough developers to gain some kind of "critical mass". One reason for this might be that, like many other projects Haiku is underestimating the role of application developers and their needs.

I do develop software, professionally as well as in my free time and I had a look at Haiku multiple times. I occassionally download the newest nightlies and have a look at it but I completely gave up trying to develop for Haiku. This is mainly because there is no decent IDE available, the API is horribly outdated and incomplete when compared to other platforms, and for the lack of good documentation.

Now, I have read stuff like: "it's open source, you can help out writing documentation or write an IDE or send patches for the OS!". The thing is, the majority of app developers don't want to do this kind of stuff. They don't want to do systems programming, they don't want to write other people's documentation and they don't want to develop tooling. They want to get started in a matter of minutes and implement their own ideas. I don't care about occasional system crashes, bugs and other glitches. I am aware, that Haiku is alpha quality software. What I need is an IDE with at least good code browsing, refactoring support, code completion, semantic highlighting, API documentation integration, integrated debugger, and a build system that gets out of the way. Apple understood this as well as Google (Android) and Microsoft even called out an app developer competition when they launched Windows Phone, AFAIR. They are successful (more or less) because they attract developers. They have good tooling and APIs that are a pleasure to work with. Be Inc. also understood this to a certain point in time and that's why they had their (short) moment, when big companies announced ports of successful software.

Why should you care? Users want applications. An OS without applications is useless. Apps need app developers. And app developers want the stuff I mentioned above. More users and more developers in general will in turn attract more people interested in system level programming. Obviously the Haiku developers can not develop an entire operating system and usable apps. So, IMHO, there needs to be a temporary shift of priorities if the project wants to succeed long term. Maybe I can at least stir up some constructive discussion on this topic, we'll see.

PS: Rereading this, it reads a little ranty. It's not ment as such, but rather as possitive criticism and a discussion ground. :-)

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