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Concurrent Multi-user Support?

Forum thread started by Taklan on Tue, 2010-03-30 17:21

I was wondering if it was possible to add such a feature that allows multiple users to concurrently login and work on the same PC. You could plug-in 2 keyboards, monitors and mice on the same computer. This would allow for and greatly reduce costs spent on computers(provided no one is playing games or anyting). Why have 2/3 desktops at home when others and login and use the same computer at the same time?

Sorry if my question was silly. I'm only in high-school, so I really don't know much about operating systems, or other facets of programming.

Scheme for World Domination...I Mean Fundraising.

Forum thread started by stellarpower on Sun, 2010-03-21 16:34

Here's the idea. An 'Everybody Gives £1/$1/1€ etc.' plan. I thought that we could advertise a scheme, like on charity days, where everyone donates a small amount, like a dollar, or the equivalent in another currency. We could ask for everyone who uses the forums, or every person that has tried Haiku and likes it to give a minute amount of money to the community to help further develop it. I also thought, as an added incentive, that we could send a little thank you gift to everyone who has made a donation. It could be something like a monthly wallpaper, or a useful app that someone has developed. If we offer something that everyone wants or needs for Haiku for only one dollar, then quite a bit of money could be collected, to help the OS and its community. Anyone have any comments?

cAsE sEnSiTivE lEttERS

Forum thread started by tsteve on Fri, 2010-03-19 21:48

There is one thing I have always hated about Unix / Linux
And thats the idea of letting people use case sensitive letters

People that write Info Or Waraes "read me" files, irk me just as bad
As you can see by the subject line of this topic, its the stupidest thing ever done

cAsE sEnSiTivE lEttERS

VS

Case Sensitive Letters

I was just wondering how other people felt about this
If it bugs you as much as it bugs me, Maybe Haiku could do things a little different

I brought this up to Scott Hacker years ago, and he did a pretty good write up on it later
That made allot of sense

Why let people use case sensitive letters, for any reason,,, or for folders and directories if nothing else. Why not make it so the OS automatically makes the first letter of files, folders, and directories a capitol letter, and all the rest, small letters

This looks so much better, and makes everything a million times easier to read
There is no real reason for letting someone make 2 files,,, 1 called FILE, and the other called file
Or even worse, letting them make 4 files, with each one having a different capitol letter in it

If the OS simply made every folder and file made by the user, a normal looking and easy to read name. The OS itself would look more mature and respected, and make it easier for everyone to use

While I'm on the subject. Why let people use 64, 128, or 256 character file or folder names ?
When Windows 95 stepped up and played the whole catch up to Linux game
It seems more like they were saying, look, we can do it, rather then giving the people something useful

No one needs a file or folder more then 32 characters long. Any more is a waste, and screws things up
Virus's took advantage of it to hurt people, Stupid software writers took advantage of it to make their programs stand out, and use a wider menu, etc. Even Windows, made the stupid hidden folder """System Volume Information""" when they could have just made Svi, or SysvolInfo, Sys Vol Info, Volinfo, etc, even "Volume Information" would be less intrusive or less of an eyesore. It just looks stupid standing out there, that long, while all the other folders are shorter

While no one cared for the old 8+3 limit. it still works today, and is pretty easy to deal with, when you find yourself using an old 98 or ME machine
The new limits we have today are insane

Just use any file sharing program out there, and look at the mess you get when people use 100 or more characters to name a file. Even if they simply used 64 characters or less, it would make a big difference, but still include any and all pertinent information

How many people have ever loaded a program, to see that it made a long name on the start menu, a long name that made the menu six inches wide, or a folder name that was five times longer then every other folder name.

Sometimes giving the people what they want, just mucks things up for everyone
More, does not in any way, mean better

A 32 character, file and folder name length, would suit most people just fine, while not giving them room to hang themselves or muck up the system
While a 14 or 18 character limits on start menu items would make everything just plain better

Internet

Forum thread started by cptrec on Sat, 2010-03-13 07:30

For Haiku to gain any decent install base, you should be able to connect to the internet right out the gates. Right now a ton of people cannot.

Suggestion: We remain single user... read on!

Forum thread started by philcostin on Thu, 2010-03-11 23:15

I have been thinking for a while now about ways to implement multi-user support under Haiku - but the more I thought about it, the more I realized something:

We have come full circle. Haiku is a desktop operating system for personal computers. Since the computer is personal, why not abandon multi-user support entirely?

Now, stay with me here since this is where it gets interesting...

Instead of multi-user support on a single machine, what I would love to see and maybe even help design is the following scenario:

Windows is very successful in the enterprise in part due to its integrated Active Directory services. Why not create something similar for Haiku for the multi-user scenario.

- Haiku would have a "system password" which is set at install time and is used for confirming local software package installation (depending on how that is done), access to system files, etc.

- When booting the system, ZeroConf checks for "domain controllers" - basically LDAP directories referencing shared home folders (NFS or something better?). If more than one domain is found, either present the user with a list or force it to be set by "holding alt to make the system password box visible and entering the system password".

- The user then logs in and authenticates against the directory service (running on a unix box - remember Haiku is a desktop focused OS) and the user home directory is mounted.

The end goal would be to enable remote administration of users, groups, permissions etc (using an application within Haiku) of the LDAP resource in a simple manner for adding users, groups, etc.

Although "Haiku is Not Linux", one of the problems for business desktop use is ease of LDAP / PAM / Kerberos / NFS setup. Maybe we can make something more fixed for Haiku along those lines.

...Probably not for R1 :-)

Ruby 1.9.1

Forum thread started by ddavid123 on Wed, 2010-03-10 01:03

How difficult would it be to add Ruby 1.9.1 to the default install? I like Ruby and would like to code in Haiku. Might as well add ROR (Ruby On Rails) too! Thanks.

WebPositive - some ideas

Forum thread started by petterhj on Thu, 2010-02-25 22:10

Hi,

I've put together a little document listing a couple of things I would like to see as features in WebPositive. It's probably premature, but my intention is to encourage some discussion and brainstorming. I've also made a couple of mockups which I believe keeps the spirit of NetPositive (based on WonderBrush and HaikuLauncher).

I know that the future of WebPositive is in good hands, and I look forward to following Stippis work. Anyways; for discussion, and hopefully some inspiration:

http://files.hug-nordic.org/WebPositive_mockup/

I do believe that a combination of simplicity and good, general features that will promote productivity, are possible and a must!

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